The first day I thought I felt happier, but that is probably just because
they found out what was wrong with me...heehee. After one week I was feeling
better and after 2 1/2 I was feeling wonderful!! I'm at the 3 week 1 day
mark and things couldn't be better!
Heather S
Hi, my name is Carlton and I have had hypothyroidism for almost 10
years now. I'm a 37 yr old male. I take my daily levoxyl, 100
micrograms. I've found that I can miss up to 2 weeks before I start
to feel really tired. I'm not that tired now but the dry skin and
itchiness seems to be always there, mostly on my back, and especially
during the dry winter days. I'm interested in the current research
findings, if they exist. Is this curable yet? What alternative
medicine treatments have been successful for others? Thanks for any
wisdom!
Heather:
How long were you on this particular dosage before you started to feel good?
Ann
I just got back from having a blood draw. I've been on synthroid for 3 weeks
exactly and had blood work this morning...it is going to be a long wait until
friday!! I'm praying they don't lower my dosage..I haven't felt this good in
years...not to mention I'm dropping weight like crazy!! I've lost 8 pounds
in 3 weeks without trying! I'm just hoping they will up my dose rather than
lower it. Whenever I am nearing the 24 hours since I've taken my synthroid,
I start to get super cold and about an hour after I take it I'm fine again.
I just feel so much happier and healthier now!
Heather S
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Dear Kim:
97.3 indicates a mild hypothyroid.
One of the first symptoms of hypothyroid is cold hands and feet. Actually
cold all over. This is due to to constriction of blood vessels in
hypothyroid. That constriction would be worse in winter.
The "answer" is to restore thyroid function, naturally. That is done with
Thyrodine. see www.thyrodine.com
best wishes,
Earl
In a message dated 3/12/2000 9:09:44 AM Eastern Standard Time,
kristilee1@... writes:
<< have you tried the Barnes Basal Body temperature test and what were the
results?
wishing you luck,
Kristilee
Kristilee,
Yes, I did try the Barnes Basal Body temp test and my reading is 97.3 degrees
over a nine day period.
I have a couple of questions, not only for you Kristilee, but for anyone else
who would care to answer. Do some of you have periods where your hands and
feet are warm? I do. I also notice that my symptoms bother me more in the
winter time than the summer, do any of you notice this about yourself?
Thanks,
Kim
With a TSH of 2.65 you could definetly still be low-level hypothyroid.
Maybe your TSH is normally around 1 or something! Even slight
hypothyroidism can cause all sorts of symptoms.
My TSH was slightly abnormal one time around 5 years ago. It then went
back into the "normal" range so my doctor did nothing. Five years later I
ended up with a TSH of 35, chronic fatigue, weight gain, depression, the
whole thing. If only I had known then what I know now I could have gotten
treatment and my thyroid would not have continued to become as damaged as
it is now!
Talk to your doctor about this. Hopefully the doctor will listen and not
be one of those who say "well the blood tests are normal so you're not
hypothyroid". Blood tests are helpful in diagnosing and getting a general
idea of where you are, but the idea of a "normal range" is misinterpreted
by most. Try to find a doctor who will work with you, maybe one who will
try you on a tiny dose of thyroid hormone for a trial period to see if your
symptoms go away. You shouldn't have to wait until it gets so bad as to be
an "abnormal" reading to get treatment!
have you tried the Barnes Basal Body temperature test and what were the
results?
wishing you luck,
Kristilee
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Hello List,
Well the results are in and I thought I'd do a posting. Please feel free to
comment. Most of this is forgien to me! LOL
TEST RESULTS UNITS REF. INTRVAL LAB
Glucose, Serum 100 MG/DL 65-109 AV
BUN 11 " 5-26 "
Creatinine, Serum 0.7 " .05-1.5 (ditto all the
way down)
BUN/Creatinine Ratio 15
Sodium, Serum 139 Meq/L 135-148
Potassium, Serum 4.2 " 3.5-5.5
Chloride, Serum 100 " 96-109
Carbon Dioxide, Total 22 " 20-32
Calcium, Serum 9.2 mg/dL 8.5-10.6
Protein, Total, Serum 7.0 g/dL 6.0-8.5
Albumin, Serum 4.0 " 3.5-5.5
Globulin, Total 3.0 " 1.5-4.5
A/G Ratio 1.3 n/a 1.1-2.5
Bilirubin, Total 0.7 mg/dL 0.1-1.2
Alkaline Phosphatase, Ser. 98 IU/L 25-150
AST (SGOT) 25 " 0-45
ALT (SGPT) 37 " 0-50
CBC, NO DIFFERENTIAL/PLATELET
White Blood Cell Count 7.7 x 10-3/uL 4.0-10.5
Red Blood Cell Count 4.48 x 10-6/uL 3.8-5.10
Hemoglobin 13.3 g/dL 11.5-15.0
Hematorcrit 39.1 % 34.0-44.0
MCV 87 fL 80-98
MCH 29.7 pg 27.0-34.0
MCHC 34.0 g/dL 32.0-36.0
LIPID PANEL
Cholesterol, Total 146 mg/dL 100-199
Triglycerides 69 " 0-199
HDL 34 " 35-150
(I was told my reading was a little low and was told to exercise to bring my
HDL Cholesterol up for the next 30 days.)
VLDL 13 mg/dL 5-40
LDL 98 " 0-129
TSH, High Sensitivity, Ser. 2.63 mcIU/mL 0.35-5.50
(I was told my reading was very normal
For the record, I am not any any type of thyroid medication. I was told
yester day that my score for the TSH was 2.5. When the paper work came, I
found that it was actually 2.63. Other than that everything else appears to
be normal to.
Thanks,
Kim
Kim,
Don't get discouraged!! It's so hard when you're taking your medicine and
you expect that you're going to feel better and then you don't! But you
will feel better! You just have to be persistent with your doctor and keep
yourself educated!
First of all, maybe your normal TSH level was lower than 2.5 when you were
not hypothyroid. If that's the case, you can have a "normal" TSH level,
yet still be low-level hypothyroid which could be the cause of your
continuing symptoms. My lab has normal TSH values of .35 - 5.50 - I think
I read somewhere that most healthy women have TSH levels of less than 2.0.
Discuss this with your doctor. Tell her/him that you are still having
symptoms and want your dosage adjusted. If the doctor won't work with you
on this, you owe it to yourself to find another doctor. (I've been through
3 doctors before I found one that was willing to work with me by symptoms
and not just blood test results!)
Secondly, see if you can find a doctor who will prescribe you T3 along with
your T4 (Synthroid) that you're already taking. This has made all the
difference in the world to me! I am finally feeling much better and have
lost 3 lbs (not much I know, but after so long of not being able to lose it
seems like a miracle!) Healthy thyroids produce certain amounts of T3 and
T4, yet synthroid only replaces T4. The theory is that T4 will convert to
all the T3 you need, but I don't find that to be the case with me. I have
been taking T3 for about 4 weeks now and the difference is just
unbelievable. I'm no longer ready to sleep at 7:30 each night, I have
energy all day, my appetite is down, I'm in a better mood and able to get
things accomplished. It is like being a totally different person!
The name of the prescription of T3 is Cytomel. I take 5 mcg twice a day.
It is about 4 times as strong as T4, so you'll have to decrease your dose
of synthroid (or whatever equivalent you're taking) when you start the
Cytomel. Dr. Arem's book "The Thyroid Solution" explains it and he even
provides a chart showing how much to decrease the original dosage by when
Cytomel is added. (My doctor went by this chart, I had to bring the book
in so she could look at it and figure it out.)
Most of all just don't give up, don't get discouraged, believe you WILL
feel better, and be persistent and change doctors if you have to. Feeling
better is worth it!
in peace,
Kristilee
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Earl,
Thanks once again for the information! I think it is very interesting and I
never knew that about seeds. Does that apply to all seeds?? For instance,
I eat a lot of sesame seeds.
Anyway I have never heard of anyone eating soybean sprouts. Is it
something you would recommend? Most importantly I'd be interested to know
whether soybean sprouts retain the amount of protein that soybeans have, or
is the protein what gets broken up when they sprout?
regards,
Kristilee
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Dear Kristilee:
Soy beans are seeds. Nature protects seeds from foraging animals by tying up
protein and minerals and by making those seeds detrimental to the animals.
Even cooking does not destroy the antiprotein and minerals components. But
sprouting does and so does fermenting them. Tofu and soy milk are made from
unfermented, unsprouted soy beans so they are indigestible and harmful. Once
sprouted [soybeans smell terrible when sprouting] or fermented then all the
nutrients in them are available.
best wishes,
Earl
hi Supermom
I too am hypothyroid. I have the same problem, It wasn't until I found out
that I also have Fibromyalgia and Lupus that things began to fall into place.
It might be worth it to look into Lupus and some of the sympotms and see if
you match. Just do a web search for Lupus and see if you can find the
national organization, that's probably the best place to start.
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Hi there,
I've been reading the list for a while now and finally have some time and
energy today to post. I was diagnosed w/ Graves' Disease about 8 years ago
and have been on the thyroid healthcare roller coaster ever since. I had
RAI about 5 years ago, then was on no meds at all for a couple of years.
Then about 2 years ago I went hypo and have been on various amounts of
Armour since then. I like Armour and it seems to work for me as long as I
can stay on top of the dosage, which has needed to change several times.
For the last three months I have gone through a really serious bout of
recurring symptoms and the worst depression I've had yet. This was actually
because I was taking too much Armour. I had increased my dose last summer
on my own, then gone to my regular doc to get tests to make sure it was
okay. He called me and said everything was fine, and at the point I
believed him and didn't ask for the results. Well, in the middle of this
latest round of illness I read The Thyroid Solution and was motivated to
better action on my own behalf. I asked my doc to send me the results from
September, and found out he hadn't even done the right tests! No TSH, only
T4 and FTI. So I found a good endo and right off the bat she realized what
was wrong. Got new tests and my TSH was .03! Now I'm on a lower dose of
Armour and feeling much better but still have lingering depression.
Here are some things I'd like anyone's thoughts on:
When I initially increased my dose last summer, it was because I wasn't
feeling right, and the increase made me feel better. Soon after the
increase, I started going to a chiropractor 3x a week for chronic back pain.
He has focused heavily on adjusting my neck. The chiropractic approach is
all about opening up nerves so that the whole body can function better, and
the nerves to the thyroid are in the neck. My chiropractor hedged around the
issue when I asked him, but I think the adjustments are changing the amount
of hormone I need. Has anyone else had similar experiences, with
chiropractic or acupuncture, etc?
Also, for my depression I've been self treating with Bach Flower Remedies.
They work amazingly well for all sorts of emotional ailments. I've used them
on my cats, too. I've been taking Mustard for "depression of no known
origin", as well as Rescue Remedy during "crisis" times. Has anyone else
worked with Flower Remedies? I am also in therapy and both my therapist and
endo have asked me about taking anti-depressants, but I'm not willing to
take more drugs that doctor's don't really understand the effects of.
Well, that's my long intro. I'm glad to be on the list :)
Dana
Hello, my name is Christina Brown. I just moved to Tennessee from
Ohio. I am 31 years old and just found out 1 month ago that I had a
thyroid problem. I was put on 25mg of synthroid. I had another blood
test done on Monday to determine if I need a higher dosage. I am not
sure what the medication is supposed to do, but I don't feel any
different since I started taking the medication. Thank you for this
support group, and I look forward to being apart of this group.
Hello List,
Well, I got the results of my "TSH high sensitivity" test results today. If
I'm not mistaken, that's what was marked on my blood order sheet when I went
for my work up. I asked the office to mail me a copy of the results, they
should be here by Saturday.
I was told that my reading is smack dab in the middle of the rage, 2.5, I
believe the tech. said. Well, how do you explain the large weight gain that
I've had over the last 18 months (about 45lbs), low body temp, cold
extremities, hair falling out, being tired all the time and the strong PMS
that I have!
Now, I'm more confused than ever, I was so sure my thyroid was the problem,
now what? I have no clue what I should do next! Any suggestions would be
greatly appreciated.
Just needed to vet a little!
Thanks,
Kim
thanks for the info Earl. I will feel better about eating miso now! Like
I said before I have heard so many conflicting opinions about soy and
hypothyroidism. One doctor I respect very much said eat it as long as it
is well-cooked, I've also heard the opinion that it is okay as long as you
only eat it 1 or 2 times a week. I basically just try to avoid it entirely
because nobody seems to agree on what kind/how much is okay to eat.
However things like miso and soy sauce are hard for me to avoid because
I've gotten used to using them a lot.
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Dear Kristilee:
All unfermented soy products appear to be anti-thyroid organic or
commercial.
If they have been fermented like, tamari or miso, they are OK.
Tofu and soy milk are relatively indigestible as well as anti-thyroid.
Earl
Dear Kristilee:
I sent the message from Helena to the list as indicator of the results she
was getting from an holistic approach that I thought would be of interest.
Earl
Hi, Friends,
This is something that I believe many people would like to know about. The
book includes both traditional and alternative treatments for hypothyroidism,
and seems to be a wealth of information not available elsewhere. So many
people never consider that their thyroid gland may not functioning properly,
and this is the real reason for many of their symptoms.
Also, the about.com website has so many different wonderful topics, that it
is worth checking out no matter what your interests may be.
Ira M. Fine
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No. 27
March 3, 2000
What happens Marylee when you STOP the Meridia? That's the bad thing about
"drugs". can you make it without them....
Hi,
Does anyone know if T3 is dangerous to take if you have an adrenal disorder?
If so, why?
Thanks.
Shari
Shari:
No, but I do go in monthly for a blood pressure check/weigh-in. The only
side effect on Meridia is possible increased blood pressure. Mine has
actually gone down! It was only 108/40 after 2 months on the highest dosage.
It is not an amphetimine "speed" so there are no energy boosters in it
(unfortunately). I think it raises your pulse a bit, but I don't think it
effects metabolism because my endocrinologist prescribes it for me, and she
treats my hypothyroidism.
I'm eating small, frequent healthful meals instead of binging once or twice a
day like I used to. The Meridia takes away my cravings for sweets and fats.
If I eat something sweet like chocolate it kind of burns my mouth. I get
hungry and really don't care if I eat salad or enchiladas dripping in cheese,
so I just eat the salad... I'm trying to make life changes that have been
needed for a long time.
I am not pushing Meridia on anybody; I just know many of us have been
struggling with weight issues from our thyroid problems, and I've found
something that works for me. I lost 3 pounds this week and have gone out to
eat several times. I've lost 16 lbs in 8 weeks.
Meridia was first created as a treatment for depression, but it didn't work
well enough. It was discovered that a side effect of the drug caused the
appetite suppression, so that's how it became the diet drug. Maybe another
reason I feel good is I'm feeling better from the depression inhibitor in
Meridia... Maybe my Synthroid is making me feel better because my hormones
are more stable... Maybe it's from eating more healthy and losing weight
(woohoo!)... Who knows? I know I just feel good.
Marylee
Dear Earl,
Are you "some kind" of Medical Dr or homeopathic healer?
Brenda
P.S. You seem to know alot of "stuff"
Awesome Marylee!
Wow, have you experienced any side effects?
Shari
Appetite suppressors
Dear Marylee:
Soy products that are unfermented inhibit thyroid function. I suspect that
includes Braggs. Suggest trying tamari, its also made from soy but
fermented.
Appetite suppressors may have some short terms benefits. But what your body
is saying is that it wants food. Food that has some nutritional value in it.
Suggest that you access www.hacres.com for an incredible insight into what
kind of nutrition the body actually requires. Ignore the biblical references
unless you are into that. The nutritional data is superb.
A person does not have to suppress the appetite. When one eats natural,
organically grown food, with adequate protein, adequate fats/oils [meaning
avocadoes, olive oil, coconut oil..in salad dressings], and not too much
carbohydrate, especially bread and pasta, [potatoes, brown rice, sweet
potatoes and grains like kamut, quinoa, oats, buckwheat, millet are OK]then
one does not tend to experience constant hunger.
Again, hunger is the body saying that it wants nutrition, to suppress that
would be to torpedo an essential function. [again this is explained on
www.hacres.com
Synthroid is a synthetic thyroid hormone that is a "look alike" to your
thyroid hormone but is not the same [or it couldn't be patented]
Your thyroid produces inadequate hormone [T4] because it lacks iodine, zinc,
B6, magnesium, manganese, selenium, trace elements, tyrosine.
To restore thyroid function, one simply has to take the nutritional foods
[or supplements] that supplies these nutrients. Thyrodine does exactly that.
See www.thyrodine.com
Please consider taking responsibility for your own health and that of your
baby by studying the data on these web sites and reading books like..any by
Leslie Kenton or Fit for Life by Marilyn and Harvey Diamond.
best wishes,
Earl
Dear Ira:
If one utilizes organically grown food and and some crucial supplements then
you don't have to be concerned about enuf amino acids, essential or non
essential.
Supplements that supply all the amino acids...
1-spirulina
2-chlorella
3-bee pollen
4-barley grass
5-mixed nuts and seeds
6-some of the green powders [The best I've discovered on www.botanicals.net
made up By a naturopathic doctor, Dr Schulze. Its called SuperFood and
contains: spirulina, chlorella, barley grass, alfalfa, wheat grass, purple
dulse seaweed, beet root, spinach leaf, rose hips, orange peel, lemon peel,
all in a base of non-fermentable saccharomyces cervisiae yeast. Its fairly
cheap in price, about US$40 ppd.for 14 oz.]
People who use appetite suppressors might look into this because if their
bodies had this kind of nutrition [in addition to restoring thyroid function
with Thyrodine] thay wouldn't need appetite suppressors.
best wishes,
Earl
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I wanted to update on my use of Meridia - the appetite blocker I started 2
months ago... I have lost 15 pounds in 8 weeks! I was carrying 35 pounds
x-tra gained from my pregnancy. The hypothyroidism was diagnosed 4 months
ago and I lost no pounds on Synthroid for 2 months. I then started the
Meridia (nd still take Synthroid)...
I do get very hungry every few hours but I just eat something small, like 1/2
turkey on wheat, salad, fruit, chicken etc.; about 1/2 a meal. I don't get
stuffed but the hunger goes away and I try to just keep busy. I lose a pound
every few days this way and I've never gained any back. I am only eating
healthful foods and my cravings for sweets have just about stopped.
(unbelievable for me!) I'm trying to exercise but mostly I'm just chasing my
1-year-old around all day!
I'm so glad something is working for me and wanted to share!
Marylee
We use Bragg's Liquid Aminos all the time. It's a condiment that tastes like
soy sauce that is salt-free. It's delicious and is a source of all the
aminos you listed. It's made of pure soybeans and purified water and has
only 4 calories per teaspoon. I get it at Whole Foods Market, and I'm sure
it's in all health food stores. I think it was invented long ago!
Thanks for all the info Ira! Do you know of supplements in pill form?
Marylee
I started to gather this information on the essential and nonessential amino
acids for my own use, but then it occurred to me to share this with my
friends. My understanding of the difference between essential and non
essential amino acids is that if your body gets enough of the essential amino
acids, it will produce the non essential amino acids itself. Your body has
to get the essential amino acids from either the foods you eat or
supplementation. All of this is based on the assumption that adequate diet
and proper digestion is good.
I believe that some amino acids have a direct effect on hypothyroidism, as
well as many other medical conditions. All of the below has been copied and
pasted from: Rick Hall - your About.com Guide to:
Nutrition
Ira
Isoleucine
Type
Essential Amino Acid, Branched Chain Amino Acid (BCAA)
Functions
Blood-sugar regulation, muscle development and repair, hemoglobin
development, energy regulation
Deficiencies
Possible dizziness, headaches, fatigue, depression, confusion, irritability
Toxicity
Elevated urination
Recommended Intakes (1985 Joint FAO/WHO/UNU Report)
31 mg/kg/day - Preschool, 2-5 yrs
28 mg/kg/day - Schoolchildren, 10-12 yrs
10 mg/kg/day - Adults, 18yrs and older
Food Sources
Eggs, fish, lentils, poultry, beef, seeds, soy, wheat, almonds, dairy
Leucine
Type
Essential Amino Acid, Branched Chain Amino Acid (BCAA)
Functions
Blood-sugar regulation, growth and repair of muscle tissue, hormone
production, wound healing, energy regulation
Deficiencies
Possible dizziness, headaches, fatigue, depression, confusion, irritability,
hypoglycemia in infants
Toxicity
Hypoglycemia, possible pellagra
Recommended Intakes (1985 Joint FAO/WHO/UNU Report)
73 mg/kg/day - Preschool, 2-5 yrs
44 mg/kg/day - Schoolchildren, 10-12 yrs
14 mg/kg/day - Adults, 18yrs and older
Food Sources
Eggs, fish, lentils, poultry, beef, seeds, soy, wheat, almonds, dairy, beans,
brown rice
Phenylalanine
Type
Essential Amino Acid
Functions
Increases blood levels of norepinephrine, epinephrine and dopamine,
neurotransmitter function
Deficiencies
Rare. Slowed growth, lethargy, liver damage, weakness, edema, skin lesions
Toxicity
Rare. Decreased/increased blood pressure, headaches
Recommended Intakes (1985 Joint FAO/WHO/UNU Report)
69 mg/kg/day - Preschool, 2-5 yrs
22 mg/kg/day - Schoolchildren, 10-12 yrs
14 mg/kg/day - Adults, 18yrs and older
Food Sources
Dairy, almonds, avocados, lima beans, peanuts, seeds
Threonine
Type
Essential Amino Acid
Functions
Antibody production, can be converted to glycine and serine
Deficiencies
Rare. Skin disorders, weakness.
Toxicity
None known
Recommended Intakes (1985 Joint FAO/WHO/UNU Report)
37 mg/kg/day - Preschool, 2-5 yrs
28 mg/kg/day - Schoolchildren, 10-12 yrs
7 mg/kg/day - Adults, 18yrs and older
Food Sources
Dairy, beef, poultry, eggs, beans, nuts, seeds
Valine
Type
Essential Amino Acid, Branched Chain Amino Acid (BCAA)
Functions
Growth and repair of muscle tissue, energy regulation
Deficiencies
None known
Toxicity
Possible hallucinations
Recommended Intakes (1985 Joint FAO/WHO/UNU Report)
38 mg/kg/day - Preschool, 2-5 yrs
25 mg/kg/day - Schoolchildren, 10-12 yrs
10 mg/kg/day - Adults, 18yrs and older
Food Sources
Eggs, mushrooms, nuts, poultry, beef, soy, grain, dairy
Histidine
Type
Essential Amino Acid
Functions
Growth, tissue repair, histamine development
Deficiencies
None known
Toxicity
Stress, possible anxiety disorders
Recommended Intakes (1985 Joint FAO/WHO/UNU Report)
8-10 mg/kg/day - Adults, 18yrs and older
Food Sources
Pork, poultry, rice, wheat, cheese
Lysine
Type
Essential Amino Acid
Functions
Promotes calcium absorption, growth and repair of muscle tissue, lowers serum
triglycerides, development and regulation of: collagen, antibodies, hormones
and enzymes.
Deficiencies
Rare. Possible stunted growth, anemia, hair loss, decreased appetite, weight
loss, decreased energy, irritability.
Toxicity
Unknown.
Recommended Intakes (1985 Joint FAO/WHO/UNU Report)
64 mg/kg/day - Preschool, 2-5 yrs
44 mg/kg/day - Schoolchildren, 10-12 yrs
12 mg/kg/day - Adults, 18yrs and older
Food Sources
Fish, eggs, dairy, lima beans, beef, soy, yeast, potatoes
Methionine
Type
Essential Amino Acid
Functions
May prevent arterial fat build-up, promotes collagen synthesis, may act as
antioxidant
Deficiencies
Rare. Slowed growth, liver damage, weakness, edema, skin lesions
Toxicity
Unknown.
Recommended Intakes (1985 Joint FAO/WHO/UNU Report)
27 mg/kg/day - Preschool, 2-5 yrs
22 mg/kg/day - Schoolchildren, 10-12 yrs
13 mg/kg/day - Adults, 18yrs and older
Food Sources
Fish, eggs, dairy, beans, beef, garlic, onion, lentils, soybeans
Tryptophan
Type
Essential Amino Acid
Functions
Precursor for serotonin (which aids sleep and anxiety), niacin production
Deficiencies
Rare. Stunted growth.
Toxicity
Possible eosinophilia-myalgia syndrome (potentially fatal)
Recommended Intakes (1985 Joint FAO/WHO/UNU Report)
Tryptophan supplementation has been determined unsafe and is illegal in the
United States
12.5 mg/kg/day - Preschool, 2-5 yrs
3.3 mg/kg/day - Schoolchildren, 10-12 yrs
3.5 mg/kg/day - Adults, 18yrs and older
Food Sources
Dairy, beef, poultry, barley, brown rice, fish, soybeans, peanuts
I started to gather this information on the essential and nonessential amino
acids for my own use, but then it occurred to me to share this with my
friends. My understanding of the difference between essential and non
essential amino acids is that if your body gets enough of the essential amino
acids, it will produce the non essential amino acids itself. Your body has
to get the essential amino acids from either the foods you eat or
supplementation. All of this is based on the assumption that adequate diet
and proper digestion is good.
I believe that some amino acids have a direct effect on hypothyroidism, as
well as many other medical conditions. All of the following has been copied
and pasted from: Rick Hall - your About.com Guide to:
Nutrition
Ira M. Fine
Glycine
Type
Non-Essential Amino Acid
Functions
Acts as an inhibitory neurotransmitter, aids in glycogen storage, possibly
decreases muscle wasting.
Deficiencies
None known.
Toxicity
Possible fatique.
Food Sources
Glycine is produced in the body.
Serine
Type
Non-Essential Amino Acid
Functions
Involved in fat metabolism, involved in muscle growth, used in skin care
products as a moisturizer
Deficiencies
None known.
Toxicity
None known. (possible depressed immune system)
Food Sources
Dairy, beef, poultry, wheat gluten, peanuts, soy.
Alanine
Type
Non-Essential Amino Acid
Functions
Glucose metabolism
Deficiencies
None known
Toxicity
None known
Food Sources
Dairy, beef, poultry, wheat, yogurt, avocado
Arginine
Type
Non-Essential Amino Acid
Functions
Stimulates growth hormone, stimulates immune system, used to treat liver
disorders, promotes muscle growth, wound healing, increases fat metabolism
Deficiencies
Rare. Impaired insulin production, possible hair loss.
Toxicity
Rare. Weakness, diarrhea, nausea, may increase the activity of some viruses.
Food Sources
Whole-wheat, nuts, seeds, peanuts, brown rice, popcorn, soy, raisins,
chocolate, carob
Asparagine
Type
Non-Essential Amino Acid
Functions
Central nervous system functions, amino acid conversion
Deficiencies
None known.
Toxicity
None known.
Food Sources
Dairy, beef, poultry, eggs
Aspartic Acid
Type
Non-Essential Amino Acid
Functions
Energy metabolism, excitatory neurotransmitter, involved in RNA, DNA,
immunoglobulin and antibody synthesis
Deficiencies
Possible fatigue and depression.
Toxicity
None known.
Food Sources
Dairy, beef, poultry, sprouting seeds
Cysteine
Type
Non-Essential Amino Acid
Functions
Acts as an antioxidant, involved in collagen synthesis
Deficiencies
None known.
Toxicity
None known.
Food Sources
Poultry, wheat, broccoli, brussel sprouts, eggs, garlic, onions, red peppers
Glutamic Acid
Type
Non-Essential Amino Acid
Functions
Acts as an excitatory neurotransmitter, transports potassium to the brain,
potential treatment for neurological conditions: muscular dystrophy,
epilepsy, Parkinson's, and mental retardation.
Deficiencies
None known.
Toxicity
Possible headaches, neurological problems.
Food Sources
Found abundantly in food.
Glutamine
Type
Non-Essential Amino Acid
Functions
Aids in digestion, involved in muscle growth and repair (used sometimes for
AIDS patients), involved in mental function as an energy source, involved in
acid-base balance.
Deficiencies
None known.
Toxicity
Possible decrease of growth hormone, possibly interferes with acid-base
balance in the body.
Food Sources
Raw parsley and spinach. Found abundantly in food.
Proline
Type
Non-Essential Amino Acid
Functions
Involved in collagen synthesis and wound healing.
Deficiencies
None known.
Toxicity
None known.
Food Sources
Dairy, eggs, beef, poultry, wheat.
Tyrosine
Type
Non-Essential Amino Acid
Functions
Induces sort-term adrenaline hormones, may regulate mood, may improve memory
and alertness, may treat chronic fatigue, appetite suppression.
Deficiencies
Stunted growth, apathy, edema, weakness, liver damage, loss of muscle, skin
lesions, hypothyroidism.
Toxicity
None known. Interacts with depression medication.
Food Sources
Almonds, avocados, bananas, beef, dairy, eggs, fish, lima beans, pumpkin
seeds, sesame seeds, soy.
On Sun, 27 Feb 2000 10:23:37 -0800 ltldab1@... writes:
Hi,
I have heard specific recommendations for Celtic Salt, but I have not been
able to find either a source for it, or a good definition of what Celtic Salt
is as compared to other salts. I used a search engine which AOL provides, but
maybe I should try another search engine.
Any information would be appreciated.
Ira M. Fine
iramfine@...
<< Wilson's syndrome is a case in point. Dr. Wilson found that he had a lot of
patients with overt symptoms of thyroid dysfunction but their blood tests
were all normal. So they probably got tranquilizers.
Earl,
What do you mean they got tranquilizers? Didn't he give them T3? Or were
you being sarcastic and mainly saying that all drugs are "tranquilizers?"
Shari
You can buy iodized or non-iodized sea salts. I don't know how much iodine
is in it though.
Shari
Hi Marianne,
I know I am a bit late in answering your post, but I was away. I second the
opinion of possibly adding T3 to your meds. I am reading a book about
Wilson's Syndrome which I got from ordering online (at Wilsonssyndrome.com).
Dr. Wilson talks about people having normal TSH and T4 levels in the
bloodsteam, but that the conversion of T4 to T3 on the cellular level doesn't
always occur well. If you have a low body temp, he suggests going on T3.
Also, so many of the symptoms you describe, I read about it this book
(including the part about feeling worse even on the synthroid). I hope you
get some relief soon!
Best wishes,
Shari
Kristilee:
Sea salt is highly washed and generally heated so that all it contains is
sodium chloride. Look for celtic salt or sea weed / kelp powder which does
have iodine in it. I've not seen any charts denoting how much iodine they
contain.
I always suggest to people that after their thyroid has been restored to
normal by using Thyrodine, that they use kelp on their food to maintain that
function.
Best wishes,
Earl
I have done all three tests; Blood tests will measure metals in the
blood, which is only a good indicator of short term exposure to toxins.
Hair analyses will measure long term exposure to toxins. And 24 hour
urine challenge tests with DMSA chelators are good for a measure of total
body burden of toxins. Hair analyses is fairly good and accurate, and
was used by National Geographic Magazine to test Napoleon for what had
killed him. They found large amounts of arsenic in his hair, from the
root to the long haired ends. Napoleon was killed by his French cook on
orders of the King of France. World Health Organization has reduced
the allowable amount of mercury in the human body recently to zero, CDC
(center for diease control) has cut the allowable amount by 2/3. These
reductions will be recognized by your doctor in about 20 years, as
thoughts and changes are very slow. In the mean time we will continue
to be sick and die.
I figure someone on this list should be able to answer my question as to
whether or not sea salt contains iodine?? And if so, is there any way to
tell approximately how much?
thanks,
Kristilee
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In a message dated 2/22/2000 3:27:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ltldab1@... writes:
<< Hair testing for metals is done through Doctors Data ph# 1-800-323-2784,
since this is a non-invasive test your doctor is not even needed.
Hello List,
I just spoke with them on the phone and I was told you needed a doctors order
for all the test. Just thought I'd pass that along,
Kim
That's why I use blood tests.
Hi,
I will be switching from synthroid to Armour thyroid...does anyone know *for
sure* if I need to wait any amount of time after going off synthroid to
switch to Armour or can I go straight into taking Armour?
TIA,
Susie
I got my hair tested by doctorsdata.com... I found their web addy on my
results.. you need your doctor to get in touch with them.. I was told that
the hair is more accurate than the blood.. the problem with getting retested
again after doing chelation is that you have to wait for hair to grow... it
takes about 1 tablespoon of hair.. there are other elements that are also
tested.. calcium, selenium and other theings. I just remember those because I
have toxic levels of calcium and not enough selenium... had levels of arsnic
that surprised me.. not toxic but high... a lot of stuff is looked for...
merry
Hi Mariann,
Sorry to hear you're going through such a tough time. I'm 42 and have been
hypothyroid for almost 30 years now. Several months ago, after basically
going through similar symptoms which you're experiencing, I started doing
some research and found several articles and information on Mary Shomon's,
Thyroid Guide website -- http://thyroid.about.com. The information which
caught my attention was regarding adding T3 to the T4 medication. I went
to my doctor and he prescribed Thyrolar (which has both T3 and T4 hormones)
whereas synthroid only has T4. Since then, I no longer feel brain fog,
depression, no more joint or body aches, and my hair and nails are no
longer brittle and dry.
There are other medication options (please refer to the website so that you
can read about the alternatives) but I would suggest you read up on it and
see if you think this would benefit you.
Good luck and my prayers are with you. Ann
Hello everyone, I have been lurking on this list for quite some time, and
dont always pay attention to all the posts. I have a real problem and dont
know what to do or where to start. Last June I was diagnosed with
hypothyroidism. In October we got the dosage right to 75mg of Synthriod.
Before the hypothryroidism, I was a ver active person, cheerleader at school,
playing soccer, swimming, I was in very good physical shape. Then Last year
I started to pack on the pounds, for no reason, I was still excerising,
eating right, etc, and I kept gaining weight. So I was diagnosd, and
basically my dr told me that by taking the pills I would be back to normal
within a year. Well, I am getting progressivly worse, although my blood
tests say otherwise. And I dont know if all this stuff is realted, but I am
guessing it is because blood tests showed that the only thing wrong with me
is that I am hypothyriod. My skin is awful, its dry and ver sensitive, never
used to be that way. I am growing hair in places Ive never grown hair
before, which is rather embarrasing when I get intimate with my boyfriend.
My periods have pretty much stopped, but now Im on the pill to get my periods
( does this mean I'll never have kids??) All my joints hurt, I was on some
meds for that but it never helped. I had never had any of these problems
before. I am only 18.... and I am starting to go crazy. I feel like my
body belongs to someone else, and it is starting mto make me very depressed
to the point where I stopped going to work, I dont hang out with my friends
anymore... and my doctor says oh yea give it a year... but things arent
getting better they are getting worse! PLease if anyone has any suggestions
or adivece, or has experienced any of this, could you please contact me? I
am going out of my mind! TIA.
Marianne
I have Hashimoto's Disease and nodules. The dr. has ordered a biopsy on the
nodules...
What does this mean?? Is he looking for cancer??
Dawn
Blaidd
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Join the Alliance Webring : http://blaidd.home.texas.net/alliance.html
This was also included in Dr. Mercola's newsletter, but apparently written by
other people. I have copied and pasted the part that applies to soy and
hypothyroidism followed by a paragraph on genetically altered soy: By
clicking on the blue hyperlink below or copying and pasting the url below,
you can read the article in its entirety.
Ira M. Fine
"There is abundant evidence that some of the isoflavones, including genistein
and equal are toxicants... additionally, isoflavones are inhibitors of
thyroid peroxidase which makes T3 and T4. Inhibition can be expected to
generate thyroid abnormalities including goiter and autoimmune thyroiditis.
In fact, infants consuming soy infant formula rich in isoflavones have about
a two-fold risk of developing these diseases...While isoflavones may have
beneficial effects at some ages or circumstances, this cannot be assumed to
be true at all ages. Isoflavones are like other estrogens in that they are
two-edged swords, conferring both benefits and risk."
...
"Adding to the natural trouble with soybeans, we are faced with a new Western
phenomenon: genetically altered soy. Among other genetically altered, or
transgenic foods like corn, apples, tomatoes, squash, strawberries, lettuce,
potatoes, wheat and even walnuts (to name just a few), soy is one of the most
controversial. MonsantoTM, the multi-million dollar biotechnology leader that
brought us rBGH (Bovine Growth Hormone), has been fighting to put genetically
altered foods on your table for several years. So far, they are winning. The
truth is, unless you've been eating ONLY organic foods, it is likely you've
been tasting Monsanto's handiwork."...
<A HREF="http://www.mercola.com/2000/feb20/more_on_soy-part_2.htm"
here: Soy: Too Good to be True (Part 2 of 2) Feb 20,2000</A
http://www.mercola.com/2000/feb20/more_on_soy-part_2.htm
This article is written by Dr. Joseph Mercola. I think he might have been
wiser to have used the words "women in their forties and older" instead of
"elderly women". Click on the hyperlink below, or copy and paste the url
below it to read his article.
Ira M. Fine
<A
HREF="http://www.mercola.com/2000/feb20/thyroid_problems_heart_disease_women.h
tm"
</A
http://www.mercola.com/2000/feb20/thyroid_problems_heart_disease_women.htm
Hi all,
I had numerous heavy metals in my body.. and I personally think it destroyed
my thyroid, but I had the chronic fatigue along with a lot of other
problems...I have eye problems that seem to be improving(dianosied as having
dystrophy of eyes), not as blurred as before, no more chronic fatigue, I
had my hair tested and it was full of mercury, aluminin, lead, silver and
some other metals and elements.. after doing 10 EDTA chelation treatments I
started feeling a whole lot better.. after 20 I no longer have the chronic
fatigue as before... I can functrion as a real person.. I have to have my
hair retested, but I do think that heavy metals hurt the human body.. I also
had the fillings taken out a few years ago and replaced with gold caps and
porcelum... heavy metals destoy the immune system, that is what I have been
able to find out from the years I have been searching for why was i ill and
how do I get better...
Hope this helps.. and how I found my thyroid was bad was by my body
temperature.. and of course the weight gain was a huge clue..
Merry
Hi,
I wonder if anyone can tell me if a thyroid test can be done at home, I mean
can you buy a kit to do your own test, it would be great , please let me
know, im having a bad time with my thyroid ,im normal they say after two
radio active drinks but have been well under active I find it hard to sleep
then am worn out all day, also does anyone get fast heart beats with the
thyroid, I do, I think a lot do and wonder why this is .
all the best
Anna
Thought I would forward this to the list. It's a free e-mail subscription
you can get if you are interested!
Marylee
Hi Kip,
What is thyrodine and where do you get it?
Thank.
Sandy
In a message dated 02/17/2000 3:46:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,
ltldab1@... writes:
<< My question is I have this unexplainable feeling in
Hi, Kent,
The thought that occurred to me when i read your post was simply that you may
be in need of a chiropractic adjustment. A subluxation or pressure on a
nerve may be an explanation for what you are experiencing. Some, but not all
chiropractors, are willing to do an axis and atlas adjustment, but let them
use their own judgement there. Most medical insurance plans do cover
chiropractor office visits now.
Ira M. Fine
iramfine@...
<A HREF="http://www.allherb.com/consumer/default.asp?j=7"
ALLHERB.COM</A
http://www.allherb.com/consumer/default.asp?j=7
This is a guide to help anyone find any kind of alternative therapy
practioner and it is a valuable resource to have.
Ira M. Fine
iramfine@...
Hi Kent,
I hate when a Dr. says "oh its probably just nothing." If it bothers you
that much I would keep searching for an answer. Best wishes,
Shari
Yes I have had the same feeling for years. I have a symptoms question
list which I will be sending out to folks in a few days. I am involved
in a university study on chronic illness and I keep coming up with good
questions and such for them. They think I am smart, I am not,
everything that I ask comes from questions people like you and others
have sent.
On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:47:27 -0800 "kklaughlin"
<kklaughlin@...
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iramfine@...
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A few months ago I stepped down gradually from 150 mcg Levoxyl to none
with the help of Thyrodine. Even though I don't believe in the accuracy
of thyroid tests, I promised this group that I'd have one and post the
results. I had the test today and they tell me the results will be in
soon. Maybe as soon as thursday. I'll post these results when I get
them.
Hello to all:
My name is Patrick B. Fisher and I am a Nikken Independent Distributor. I am
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Since I am restricted from using medical terminology by the FDA, I cannot
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people who need chemo or radiation therapy and others) from which many of you
currently suffer and Nikken's products have helped them to feel better - in
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Nothing will bring me greater joy than being able to help those of you who
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email: boomrz2@...
it did not have the T3 and T4 in it... also how i am finding my right dose is
by what my body temperature is.. take it under the arm before you get out of
bed and leave it there for ten minutes.. do it again in the evening... the
norm should be around 97.6.. under arm.. mine was in the 93 and 94's.. since
taking a thyroid supplement.. it is moving closer to normal and I feel a lot
better.. I am on 2 pills but need to go higher.. I take everything in small
steps.. Hope this is helpful info..
merry
In a message dated 2/12/00 10:17:56 PM Central Standard Time,
bfitnow@... writes:
<< Dear Marylee,
My dose has been changed about 4 times. I started on .1..then went to
.2...then I went to .3...then it was to high...then I went to .2..then I
went to just taking half of .2 so I was taking .1. I'm suppose to go back to
the DR & get another blood check when I get around to going. I'm just about
sick of this whole mess. It's up & then its' down...what do you do....
BR
Hi my name is Tiffany. I was born without a thyroid gland. I went into
convulsions when I was 3 months old and rushed to the ER. I have been on
Synthroid for as long as I can remember. I am currently taking .4 mg daily.
As long as I take it, I feel great. If I miss more than 3 days I get very
tired. I have horrible mood swings and I am constantly cold. I do get along
with people very well but my husband has about had it with the moods.
One minute I'm fine and the next I am a totally different (mean) person. It
scares me. I look forward to reading all of your messages.
Tiffany "Tif"
I've never seen an endocrinoligist. Just been going to my family DR. I think
that is a great idea though. I'm going to see if there is a good one around
where I live..thanks for tha suggestion....BR
Hi Brenda, and Welcome!:
Why has your doctor not upped your level of Synthroid? If that is the method
you are using there are a lot higher doses. I didn't feel better until I
went to .125 which I believe is two steps up from you... Are you seeing an
endocrinologist?
Marylee
Hello, my name is Brenda. I was diagnosed with Hypothyroidism in July of 98.
Levels very low to the point of "coma". The DR scared me by those words. I'm
still not level with my "supposedly levels" of whatever. I'm still very tired,
very cold & and all the related symptoms. I'm currently taking .1 of Synthroid.
Any suggestion or comments welcome...
Wed, Feb 9, 2000
Mary Shomon - your About.com Guide to:
Thyroid Disease
Dear Sabra:
HGH can be taken as an homeopathic remedy, meaning not much actual hormone
in it or you can get remedies that contain only precursors, no actual HGH.
There does seem to be some merit in keeping HGH fairly high, but it can also
be iffy when any form of cancer may exist.
The GH made for cows is a GE Monsanto aberration which simply drives the
cows metabolism up so she gives more milk...with lots more estrogen in it
and some more side effects. This is elaborated in Robert Cohen's notmilk
URL.
I personally would not take the bovine derived HGH. I am trying the amino
acid precursors and have not yet observed any great results.
The best ways of beating aging is to:
1-keep thyroid function up {and Thyrodine will do this]
2-utilize a natural progesterone [We now have a Progespray or oral
progesterone which has a 99% absorption and has adrenal stress and
anti-oxidant herbs in it.
3-follow essentially a Hallelujah diet plan [see www.hacres.com]
4-use chlorella, spirulina or SuperFood, a well designed all natural greens
formula by Dr. Schulze [available from... healthfree@...]
Best wishes,
Earl
Hello, I have a question for anyone that may know.
There has been so much talk about the Human growth hormone(HGH) It is
supposed to turn back the clock.Improving everything from heart to hair.It
is supposed to be very good for thyroid problems also.On the other hand I
keep reading about human growth hormones being given to animals and how bad
it is for people to eat meat that has been tainted with it. I am not a big
meat eater but I had considered taking HGH.I talked to a distributor and she
assured me that they synthesize it for purity but I think it is still
derived from bovine sources or at least some are. Does anyone know the
skinny on the difference between the two? Thanks much, Sabra
<A HREF="aol://4344:3167.Tcoffee.21062257.634143019"
Personal Time/Your Health</A
Hello, friends,
Here are some additional thyroid websites which many of you will probably
find to be of interest.
Ira M. Fine
iramfine@...
AOL: TIME.COM: Personal Time/Your Health
Thyroid Disease: What to Look For
Online medical advice from TIME health columnist Christine Gorman
Subj: DEB News - *Bio*Technology* - The 21st Century "Tower of Babble"
Date: 02/06/2000 1:15:24 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: dorietz@... (DEB News)
Reply-to: dorietz@...
To: dorietz@... (DEB News list)
Sunday, February 6
YOU CAN'T TELL THE PLAYERS WITHOUT A PROGRAM
Today is the 92nd day of my hunger strike.
Environmentalists and pure food activists have become outraged by all
that Monsanto stands for, blaming that company for many of the world's
illnesses, from asthma caused by polluted air to cancers caused by
tainted foods. Yet, Monsanto is merely one of numerous companies whose
futures are firmly rooted in agricultural biotechnology and genetic
engineering.
I often refer to Monsanto as Monsatan, confident that I will never be
brought to court for what I say or write because of the clear and
incontrovertible evidence of their crimes against humanity. This is a
company that has brought many "gifts" to mankind, including dioxins,
Agent Orange, PCB, aspartame, the genetically engineered bovine growth
hormone, and other genetically modified Frankenfoods.
By focusing so closely upon Monsanto, I and other activists have lost
sight of the other "players" who sit unidentified on the sidelines,
pursuing their own unique biotechnological agendas.
I, THE "EXPERT," IN REALITY KNOW VERY LITTLE
I recently consulted my "2000 World Almanac" to see how Monsanto ranked
against other chemical and pharmaceutical companies.
The top nine chemical companies had a combined gross revenue of $98
billion dollars in 1998, and the top three companies generated more than
2/3 of that cash flow.
Du Pont was first at $39.1 billion dollars. Dow chemical was second at
$18.4 billion. Monsanto was third at $8.6 billion. Why have we been
looking at just one firm while neglecting the others? What are the "big
guys" up to? What role does numero uno play in the new world order?
The top nine pharmaceutical companies had combined revenues of $137
billion dollars. Merck was first with $27 billion in revenues.
Pharmacia-Upjohn was tenth at just under $7 billion. In 1999, Monsanto
failed to merge with American Home Products (fifth on the list of
pharmaceuticals) and will now merge with Upjohn. These days, Wall
Street rumors have Du Pont seeking to acquire American Home Products.
The giant multi-national corporations do battle for control of the
world's chemical and drug markets, while the common men and women of the
planet hardly take notice.
One thing is for certain. Whoever controls the seeds used to grow our
crops controls the food supply. Whoever controls our supermarkets
controls the world.
THE LARGEST SEED COMPANY IN THE WORLD
Pioneer Hi-Bred is based in the United States and has operations in 21
nations. Pioneer Hi-Bred is no household name. I've just gotten off
the phone with 20 adults randomly selected from the parent-listings in
my daughter's elementary school. Not one of the 20 had heard of
Pioneer Hi-Bred.
This company controls 42 percent of the U.S seed corn market and 16
percent of the soybean market. Pioneer's corporate motto is:
"Only those with great faith and the 'long look' can hope to succeed."
What great philosopher wrote that corporate slogan? Today's DILBERT
(comics section of your Sunday newspaper - 2/6/2000) reflects the sorry
state of today's business world. Dilbert notes that tests indicate his
company's products to be defective. Dilbert's boss responds:
"Our corporate philosophy is 'quality is our primary goal.'"
Dilbert assumes that he should delay shipment of that product until the
errors are corrected. The boss informs him that the shipment should be
made immediately so that the company can obtain the revenue.
Dilbert reacts:
"Gaaa! That's the opposite of our corporate philosophy!!!"
His boss responds:
"Now you know why there aren't any rich philosophers."
Pioneer's 'long look' at the future includes a plan to genetically
engineer all seeds. Their philosophy of vision and faith should include
an apology to the Monarch butterflies who died by ingesting pollen from
the new genetically engineered corn.
In 1998, Pioneer Hi-Bred's visionaries created $1.8 billion in sales for
their company generating a gross profit of $890 million dollars. More
than 40% of their sales were from genetically engineered seeds. In
1998, Pioneer Hi-Bred was issued more patents for genetically modified
organisms than any other company, gaining 108 exclusive patents. By
comparison, Monsanto was ranked 203rd with 77 patents.
Last year, the largest chemical company in the world, Du Pont, merged
with Pioneer Hi-Bred. Du Pont CEO Chad Holliday called the union:
"â¦One of the most important mergers in U.S. history."
Rick McConnell, senior VP for Pioneer, said:
"Crop germplasmâ¦is like the chassis of a car on which we build valuable
and useful options. We've got a great chassis. Du Pont and Pioneer are
the mechanics."
GENTLEMEN: START YOUR ENGINES
Warning: The race has begun, but there are very few spectators
attending this event. They've got the chassis and the mechanics and
their cars are racing around the track. Unless we regain control, the
world's people shall become more than mere witnesses. We will become
the victims.
We must all recognize that the powers that be exert enormous influence
upon regulators and government officials. Secret deals are being made
by the World Trade Organization, which does not take the rights of the
individual into consideration.
The one most basic right that we have is the right to know what we are
eating. If Monsanto and Du Pont lobbyists succeed, genetically
engineered foods will carry no label.
America's milk has changed as a result of the new biotechnology. Lab
animals got cancer from the genetically engineered bovine growth
hormone. Lab animals treated with that hormone developed a vast array
of cancers. Levels of existing hormones in milk have increased. The
corn has changed. Monarch butterflies have eaten pollen from the new
corn and died.
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) stands between the common man and
biotechnology companies. The FDA stands between health and safety, and
a tragedy of unprecedented consequence and proportion. FDA has
previously betrayed America on the health and safety of thalidomide and
diethyl stilbesterol. FDA has erred on the copper coil uterine device,
breast implants, new gene therapies, and countless drugs and protocols
relying upon irrational and inconclusive animal research.
FDA is now armed with Monsanto's enormous deception. The official FDA
file number to my suit is: DOCKET # 999-4613
WHAT YOU CAN DO
Should you wish to voice your outrage at FDA's inaction, include that
file number (DOCKET # 999-4613) in the subject of your letter, and
forward your email to:
fdadockets@...
Robert Cohen
I think you are correct on the following below.. I have had a body temp of
95-96 for years now until I went on Armour thyroid.. it is much closer to
normal now and the way that I feel has improved greatly.. I also found that
it helped with bowels.. I contribute it to the adding of the thyroid
medication.. since that was the only thing that I had changed..
Chelation changed my life.. the removal of heavy metals from body.. I did the
IV EDTA..
One thing I would like to mention and I do not know if it has anything to do
with a thyroid not functioning.. is that heavy metals from what I have
observed, hurt the thyroid.. and heavy metals can be in fillings, hair color
and enviromental.. I do believe that the gov. should do major research on
this as so many people are having problems.. I know I cannot pump gas..
because of the fumes.. with an impaired immune system from heavy metals and
toxic chemicals..
merry
In a message dated 2/4/00 7:40:30 AM Central Standard Time, IRAMFINE@...
writes:
<< From: IRAMFINE@...
In a message dated 02/04/2000 3:59:06 AM !!!First Boot!!!,
Supermom82@...
writes:
<< I am keeping track
of my temperature, but I've read that this is not a good indicator of a
thyroid condition and then again I've read that it is!!
Hello, Kim
I am witing this reply from my memory, so bear with me if I make a mistake.
Look for the book "Hypothyroidism: The Unsuspected Illness" by Dr. Broda
Barnes. He describes what has been named the Barnes Basal Temperature Test
which many doctors accept, especially those who give credibility to
alternative and nutritional approaches to disease.
I have read his book many years ago, as well as several others which accept
his philosophies. Although I am describing this as I understand it, it may
be subject to my interpretations not being the author's official intent. My
understanding of the author's procedure and theory behind his concept is
simple and as follows:
The body has self-preserving innate logic. The thyroid controls metabolism
and maintaing body temperature. All of the essential body organs are
located
in the trunk of the body, and it is critical that proper body temperature
must be maintained for the trunk. The extremeties (arms and legs) are less
essential, as one can live without an arm or leg, but the internal organs
are
more important. The armpits and crotch are the "gateways" to the
extremeties. If one's thyroid is functioning normally, the temperature of
the extremeties should be normal. The body's goal is to maintain the proper
temperature for the internal organs, and that the temperature to extremities
can be sacrificed.
Before you go to sleep at night, place a shaken-down regular thermometer
within reach of your bed, and have a clock located where you can see it
while
lying in bed, like on a night stand. When you first awaken in the morning,
without raising your body up, reach over and place the thermometer in one of
your armpits for 10 minutes while lying down in bed. After the 10 minutes
are up, then you can get up out of bed. The theory of not raising yourself
up out of bed or getting out of bed is that the adrenals (which control
postural hypotension) will kick in to maintain proper blood pressure when we
raise ourselves up from a sleeping position, and the body temperature will
be
affected so that you will not get a true basal temperature reading.
Keep a log for a week and write down the reading of the thermometer. I
cannot find my copy of the book, and therefore cannot be sure what the
minimum threshold basal temperature should be, but if my memory is correct,
97.4 sounds about right. Don't take my word for this temperature, but get
the book and see what Dr. Barnes says. If your readings are below this
"magic" number, you are subclinically hypothyroid. Will other members out
there please verify this temperature?? I do not want to give incorrect
information.
I am sure if I did make an error in this posting, someone kind soul will let
us all know about it.
Ira M. Fine
iramfine@...
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In a message dated 02/04/2000 3:59:06 AM !!!First Boot!!!, Supermom82@...
writes:
<< I am keeping track
of my temperature, but I've read that this is not a good indicator of a
thyroid condition and then again I've read that it is!!
Hello, Kim
I am witing this reply from my memory, so bear with me if I make a mistake.
Look for the book "Hypothyroidism: The Unsuspected Illness" by Dr. Broda
Barnes. He describes what has been named the Barnes Basal Temperature Test
which many doctors accept, especially those who give credibility to
alternative and nutritional approaches to disease.
I have read his book many years ago, as well as several others which accept
his philosophies. Although I am describing this as I understand it, it may
be subject to my interpretations not being the author's official intent. My
understanding of the author's procedure and theory behind his concept is
simple and as follows:
The body has self-preserving innate logic. The thyroid controls metabolism
and maintaing body temperature. All of the essential body organs are located
in the trunk of the body, and it is critical that proper body temperature
must be maintained for the trunk. The extremeties (arms and legs) are less
essential, as one can live without an arm or leg, but the internal organs are
more important. The armpits and crotch are the "gateways" to the
extremeties. If one's thyroid is functioning normally, the temperature of
the extremeties should be normal. The body's goal is to maintain the proper
temperature for the internal organs, and that the temperature to extremities
can be sacrificed.
Before you go to sleep at night, place a shaken-down regular thermometer
within reach of your bed, and have a clock located where you can see it while
lying in bed, like on a night stand. When you first awaken in the morning,
without raising your body up, reach over and place the thermometer in one of
your armpits for 10 minutes while lying down in bed. After the 10 minutes
are up, then you can get up out of bed. The theory of not raising yourself
up out of bed or getting out of bed is that the adrenals (which control
postural hypotension) will kick in to maintain proper blood pressure when we
raise ourselves up from a sleeping position, and the body temperature will be
affected so that you will not get a true basal temperature reading.
Keep a log for a week and write down the reading of the thermometer. I
cannot find my copy of the book, and therefore cannot be sure what the
minimum threshold basal temperature should be, but if my memory is correct,
97.4 sounds about right. Don't take my word for this temperature, but get
the book and see what Dr. Barnes says. If your readings are below this
"magic" number, you are subclinically hypothyroid. Will other members out
there please verify this temperature?? I do not want to give incorrect
information.
I am sure if I did make an error in this posting, someone kind soul will let
us all know about it.
Ira M. Fine
iramfine@...
Dear All:
One of the major hassles that particularly affect women is the condition
known as: Estrogen Dominance Syndrome.This occurs when a woman [and some
men] accumulates excess amounts of estrogen. The estrogen comes from:
1-fat cells
2-the "pill"
3-HRT
4-spray residues on food
5-some plastics
6-almost all dairy products
7-in meat
The article which I wrote somewhat recently, will cover all the major
considerations that you need to know about...in your quest for knowledge so
that you can take charge of the health and well-being of your own body and
your families. The article talks about the use of progesterone cream. The
clinic has now perfected a progesterone oral spray with adrenal stress and
anti-oxidant herbs in it that has an absorption rate of 99%.
Should anyone have problems downloading this WORD document, let me know and
I'll copy it off for you and send as a message. Best wishes,
Earl
Dear Kim:
One approach to hypothyroid / hypoglycemia is that you actually dont need a
"doctor!"
Or if you prefer having an advisor, you may wish to find a naturopath in
your area.
Hypothyroid is restored very effectively by a product called Thyrodine. data
is attached.
Hypoglycemia is largely controlled by a low intake of high glycemic carbs,
meaning white flour products which metabolize fast and convert to glucose.
What is needed here is a supplement containing zinc, B6, magnesium, trace
elements and vanadium. This will balance out blood sugar levels. You should
be able to find such a formula in most health food stores.
For best reference about thyroid dysfunction, check out: www.thyrodine.com
For a good reference about nutrition, check out: www.hacres.com
Best wishes,
Earl
Hello List,
My name is Kim White. I'm the mother of two teen girls and will be a grandma
for the first time in late March. I am hypoglycemic and think I am
hypothyroid to. I am researching the condition and decided to join the list
to learn more about it. I haven't seen a doctor yet as I am still searching
for one that also believes in and practices complimentary medicine. My
family doctor of MANY years never figured out the things I am discovering
about my health. I am now on a low carb diet which is controlling my
hypoglycemia nicely. I've been low carbing now for 2 1/2 months and still
have a number of symptoms that are not responding like I think they should.
So, here I am. I am interested in learning everything I can and look forward
to getting to know all of you.
Are there some things I could be doing, reading, keeping track of that would
help me when I do find a doctor I can discuss this with? I am keeping track
of my temperature, but I've read that this is not a good indicator of a
thyroid condition and then again I've read that it is!! So, until I know for
sure, I'll keep doing it. Any comments on this?
An suggestion on doctors in the Northern Virginia area?
Blessings,
Kim
Dear Kim,
The address to post messages to the hypothyroidism mailing list is:
hypothyroidism@onelist.com
Welcome to this list, and I hope you find much useful information in the
postings. All of the list archives are available to look at, and I am sure
you will find many things of interest to you in the archvives. The list is
in favor of alternative therapies, but does not exclude other things. In
fact, since the thyroid affects so many other systems of the mind and body,
any health posts are welcome.
sincerely,
Ira M. Fine
iramfine@...
one of the list moderators
Woops! I got my messages mixed up :oD
Hello friends,
I know practically nothing about homozone or hydrogen peroxide therapy, and a
friend of mine asked me about it. His request picqued my interest, so I used
a search engine and found this aritcle.
While reading it, I discovered that this affects the hormone system and other
bodily systems which people with hypothyroidism or other metabolic disorders
may find to be great interest. You must use your own judgement again, as I
am neither recommending or endorsing this, nor am I advising against it. I
do not know what I believe about it yet. I am merely sharing this with you.
I have copied and pasted it, but highlighted the areas I thought you would
find most applicable.
Your feedback or comments are welcome.
Ira M. Fine
iramfine@...
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Oxytherapy.com - OxyFile #349 - Hydrogen Peroxide vs Liquid Stabilized Oxygen
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http://oxytherapy.com/oxyfiles/oxy00349.html
OxyFile #349
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 17:37:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Mike Davis" xdcrlab@...
Subject: SuperOxy *MINUS*
Over a year ago I tested SuperOxy as described in the FAQ. The
reading indicated less than 10 parts per million (ppm) on a color
scale with like five colors from 0-30, so I'll call it 8 ppm.
the dilution was 100:1 so the concentration of peroxides in
SuperOxy would be 800 ppm which is the same as .08%
For comparison lets look at 5 drops of 35% HP in a glass of water:
(.25 ml x .35)/240 ml = .000365 or .0365%
Not bad you say the superoxy is twice as concentrated but you
didn't take into consideration the volume. So lets multiply the
two concentrations, 8 oz for the batch we just made and let's say
2 oz for the SuperOxy, as recommended on the label:
8oz x .0365% = .29
2oz x .08% = .16
Well, well, .16 goes into .29 almost twice, which basically says
that one ounce of SuperOxy is equivalent to 2.5 drops of 35% HP,
well let's round it off to 3 drops (same as 35 drops 3% HP)
And you thought you were getting a full twenty drops? Or did you
think you were getting as the label says "twenty drops of a
combination of 35% HP and MgO2" which really doesn't tell you
anything at all.
This is the deception of SuperOxy