foot pain, and what's up with the jello??

2007-04-30 20:50:16

I'm curious about the jello too!! LOL
Liz I am interested in your foot pain--my big toe has
gotten increasingly more numb for about 2 years and
now is numb on the end but the toe joint hurts a lot
at times. It especially hurts if you apply pressure
on the joint though it does not appear red or swollen
as I have read happens with gout. Since I had some
numbness from a low back injury I assumed it was more
of the same. Now my index finger joint is painful in
the same way and swollen. I'm thinking rheumatoid
arthritis is a possibility but since your post
wondering if it's thyroid related.
Mary C-MI

Doctors Appt

2007-04-30 17:12:15

Hi all,
Having used BBT for fertility purposes I've decided it's time
to see the doctor about these L-O-W temperatures (94-96 degrees).
What tests should I request?
Thanks,
Kim

Re: Hello---- I'm New

2007-04-30 11:02:28

Thanks Mindy!!!! The pain is more on the right side than the left.
Now I'm curious why does the jello help?
Thanks Again!!!!!
Liz
------

Hello---- I'm New

2007-04-29 22:00:18

Hi Everyone,
I've had a lot of weird stuff going on in my body lately. I've done some
research and I think that it might be my thyroid, what do you think?
My neck has been hurting for the last few months, I thought that it was
due to exercise but now I'm not so sure. My hair is slowly falling out,
when I get cold my fingers and toes get numb, my eyesight is blurry, and
I have this weird thing going on with my foot, it gets tingly and sort of
hurts on top almost like it's asleep but not quite. The foot thing may be
totally something else but I thought that I would mention it.
I have a doctor's appointment tomorrow.
Thanks!!!!
Liz

Re: [hypothyroidism] Hello---- I'm New

2007-04-29 21:16:32

Liz, does it hurt if you turn it too far to the left and right? I had that happen to me, with increasing pain, but I cured it in one weekend with Jello (sugar-free to avoid excessive carbohydrates). Make sure you get enough calcium and other electrolytes every day, too.

As for your other symptoms - yes, see a doctor, get your body things tested....

--
Mindy

Re: [hypothyroidism] Can Griffonia Free You From Depression & Anxiety?

2007-04-29 15:34:44

Can Griffonia Free You From Depression and Anxiety?
Maybe. The answer to this may be a little complex. All
the data are not in, but bear with me, because this
seed extract may really help you. (I know youre
asking, What is this stuff? But, again, bear with
me.)
We are seeing an increasing problem with depression in
todays stressful world. Depression can take the form
of anxiety, sadness, and eating disorders resulting in
weight loss, weight gain, sleeping disturbances, and
numerous other problems.
A common denominator to depression on the physical
side is a neurotransmitter brain chemical, known as
serotonin. Many studies have shown that adding
serotonin to the body can relieve the symptoms of
depression and anxious depression, and can help
patients lose weight and normalize sleep patterns.
We cannot give a person serotonin directly, so the
traditional medical approach has been to use a class
of drugs known as SSRIs (selective serotonin
re-uptake inhibitors). These SSRIs prevent the
re-uptake of serotonin in the brain, which results in
increased levels of serotonin. Depression, anxiety,
and the other symptoms mentioned are frequently caused
by a decreased level of serotonin.
In general, the SSRIs are safe, and literally
millions of prescriptions have been used for them in
Europe as well as in the United States. Drugs in this
category include Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Celexa, Luvox
and others. As with any drug, there are side effects
in certain individuals, but, generally, they are well
tolerated (though rarely, more serious problems occur
in which patients experience unusual outbursts of
temper and violence). Occasional episodes of
nervousness and fatigue have also been observed.
From Gods creation, we see His hand reaching down to
help us. He did not create SSRIs in the plant
kingdom, but He did even better. He created certain
chemicalsamino acids that the body naturally converts
to serotonin - that achieve an increase in serotonin
levels. Though He created several chemicals in this
category, one that has aroused particular enthusiasm
is 5-HTP. This is an extract from a plant seed called
Griffonia Simplicifolia.
Heres where it becomes a little complicated.
Generally, the body uses an amino acid called
L-tryptophan, which is converted to serotonin in the
body. Tryptophan occurs naturally in milk and turkey,
among other things (this is probably why we get sleepy
after a warm glass of milk at night and after a turkey
dinner).
Before tryptophan is converted to the beneficial brain
transmitter serotonin, it is first converted to 5-HTP.
More of the 5-HTP is converted to serotonin if we
ingest it directly, and this is where the griffonia
seed comes in. Only about 3-5 percent of a normal dose
of tryptophan is converted to serotonin, whereas 70
percent of oral 5-HTP is changed into the beneficial
chemical. Also, tryptophan is no longer available on
the market, due to a contaminated batch that was
produced in Japan several years ago.
Studies have shown that 5-HTP, when put in
head-to-head trials with the SSRI drug Luvox, showed
approximately a 50 percent improvement over the
prescription drug. The natural 5-HTP was much better
tolerated than the prescription drug. In the study
used, patients took 100 mg. of 5-HTP three times
daily.
The 5-HTP not only helps with depression, but also
anxiety symptoms. Many patients do not realize that
anxiety can be part of true depression, though this
seems somewhat of a paradox. Another benefit is that
these neurotransmitter chemicals in the brain can have
a direct effect on appetite, and 5-HTP can help
overweight patients achieve a weight loss. Insomnia,
which is common with depression, also decreases
markedly when on this natural supplement.
This is not the end of the story. There are many other
neurotransmitters in the brain that are critically
important, including dopamine, norepinephrine, etc.
Serotonin appears to be one of the most prominent, and
we now have a God-created chemical that can have a
direct impact on the increasingly common problem of
depression. This particular supplement is available
over-the-counter in health food stores. I strongly
suggest that you pray about whether this supplement is
part of Gods natural pathway that He wants to use in
your healing from depression and its accompanying
symptoms.
For more information on Dr. Cherrys ministry, visit
his Web site:
www.drcherry.org.

thyroid gland failure

2007-04-29 07:31:32

Why should my thyroid gland have ceased to function?
About 3 years ago I had a functioning thyroid gland. I got very
sick with gangrine from diabetes. I was hospitlaized and had
multidoses of antibotics and painkillers. Within 2 weeks I was
extremely cold in my hospital bed. Nothing could make me warm. Later I
was diagnosed with hypothroid, my glands were outputting nothing.
I was put on synthroid and my body temperature was finally stabilized.
I can find no Doctor or articles which can describe why this could
have happened. I would appreciate some explaination or reference which
could clearify this phenomen to me. Thanks--chickadee682001

best thyroid web site I've ever seen...bar none

2007-04-29 07:20:34

http://www.ithyroid.com
check it out! :)
--
Mindy

HOME THYROID SCREEN!!!

2007-04-28 16:30:26

I just found a company offering a Home Thyroid Screen! It is
amazing. I've never seen any product like it.
Visit www.ebiosafe.com

Re: [hypothyroidism] is this bad?!!!

2007-04-28 13:39:02

I am sure you will get good advice here from the good
doctor, but in the meantime why don't you check out
the following website :
www.watercure2.com/mankind.htm
It will change your life !!!

is this bad?!!!

2007-04-28 08:40:27

hi, i'm michelle. back in march my menses were very irregular so i
went and had my tsh test done at the same time as my cholesterol. by
the way, i've gained approx. 70 lbs in the past two and a half
years. this includes one miscarriage, sadly enough. i have all sorts
of extreme dryness and i look all puffy like i'm gonna pop! the lab
results stated that levels between 0.47 and 6.90 mIU/L were normal.
then they said that mine was "
that i could have figured out but i guess it's all relative. also i
have my cholest. checked every year and the total cholest. has
gradually gone up in the past 3 years. it is now 223. but what
really scares me is that my triglycerides jumped from 155 last year
to 478 this year (possible diabetes?). my hdl is down and my ldl is
of course up. i have read that having an inactive thyroid might
affect your cholesterol levels, is this true? and could this explain
some of what is going on with my numbers? also is there any
connection that anyone knows of, between my huge jump in
triglycerides and possible diabetes? or is this just another effect
of the hypothyroidism? also every site i research on this subject
gives me numbers that would indicate "normal." between this and
that. well, i have yet to come across any numbers that represent
"normal" in terms of mIU/L like my lab used to describe my level.
and what are the levels of risk, using their measurements, for
numbers above 6.90 up to, say, "
is, just how bad is my "
there some individuals with
something to relate these numbers to. and at what number do you fall
into myxedema coma?! i know this is extreme, however it is difficult
to gather information, let alone fix this problem when you have no
insurance. so any answers you could give would be helpful. thanks
again, michelle

Re: [hypothyroidism] New...hypothyroidism and fertility?

2007-04-28 04:13:51

In a message dated 09/26/2001 8:41:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, kammey@... writes:

Much to my surprise and dismay my
temperature readings fall between 94.7-97 most of the month--many
more low ones than high ones. I know this is but one symptom, but I
am wondering if this sounds like a good enough reason to be tested
for hypothyroidism? I've done a bit of surfing and am finding more
links between hypothyroidism and infertility. Any thoughts?

Kim,
IMO, it's enough to go for tests. And even if your tests (TSH, T4) read normal that doesn't necessarily mean you aren't hypo. I would definitely encourage you to check with more than one doctor if the first one can't explain or isn't concerned about your low body temps. Even though you can keep on functioning, low temps like that mean the body has to sacrifice something in order to keep basic life support going. Fertility may be one thing your system can't handle when it's cold all the time. Good luck! Linda in LA
"We are each responsible for our own life--no other person is or even *can* be." Oprah Winfrey
http://geocities.com/llheinsohn/index.html

New...hypothyroidism and fertility?

2007-04-28 02:28:38

Hi there,
My husband and I have been trying to conceive our first child.
After a couple of months with no luck I decided to check my
temperature every morning. Much to my surprise and dismay my
temperature readings fall between 94.7-97 most of the month--many
more low ones than high ones. I know this is but one symptom, but I
am wondering if this sounds like a good enough reason to be tested
for hypothyroidism? I've done a bit of surfing and am finding more
links between hypothyroidism and infertility. Any thoughts?
Thanks for your time,
Kim
Gresham, Oregon

"plea for peace" NEW VIRUS< do not open attachments

2007-04-27 13:22:40

You had to know this was coming as usual to
every new event, a new virus. Please pass to all so
they don't get it.
Click here: News: 'Vote virus' poses as plea for peace
"VOTE VIRUS" POSES AS PLEA FOR PEACE
TODAY'S TOP STORY FOR SEPT. 25, 2001
Security experts on Monday warned of a new file-deleting virus
masquerading as a program that asks people to vote on whether the
United States should go to war. The virus appears with the subject
line, "Peace between America and Islam!" and the body of the e-mail
urges people to "vote to live in peace."

fluoride in water

2007-04-27 10:51:10

Is this true?? as I thought that distilled water
(which shower steam would be, essentially) contained
no minerals--how does the fluoride get into the air if
it is a mineral & not a gas?
Mary C-MI

Dentists Cause Cavities

2007-04-27 06:23:14

Dentists Cause Cavities
By Sally Stride
http://www.mercola.com/2001/sep/26/dentists_cause_cavities.htm
American children consume so much fluoride that it may actually cause
rather then prevent tooth decay.
A new study shows that, otherwise fluoride-free, South African children who
drink naturally fluoridated water, at 3 parts per million (ppm), have more
tooth decay than South African children drinking much lower concentrations,
0.48 PPM and 0.19 PPM fluoride, according to a September 2001 International
Journal of Pediatric Dentistry.
"Significantly more children had decayed teeth in the high fluoride area
than in the other two areas," write authors Grobler, et al.
"The results suggest a positive association between high fluoride levels in
the drinking water and dental caries (cavities)," they conclude. Tooth
decay rates ranged from 1.54 drilled, missing or filled teeth (DMFT) in the
low fluoride areas to 1.98 DMFT in the high fluoride area.
With virtually no dental care or fluoride therapy, these South African
children have less tooth decay than fluoride-saturated American children.
By comparison, American 12- to 18-year olds, had 3.08 DMFT, according to
the Journal of the American Dental Association. African American children
have even higher rates. Americans spent 56 billion dollars on dental care
in 1999 - up 5.6% from 1998.
Neglecting poor diet, organized dentistry prescribes more and more
fluoride, as the only antidote for cavities, in more and obscure ways
without concern for individuals' total fluoride intake.
Sadly, most dentists refuse to actually treat America's poorest who have
over twice the decay rate as the non-poor. As a result, tooth decay is of
epidemic proportions in the US poor and minority populations at the same
time fluoride overdose, dental fluorosis, is growing in incidence and severity.
Cavities increase in people with severe fluorosis according to the dental
textbook, "Dentistry, Dental Practice and the Community," by Burt and
Eklund. But few practicing dentists seem to know this.
Burt and Eklund explain that fluoride concentrations in drinking water,
form a J-shaped curve. With increasing fluoride levels, cavity experience
diminishes to a certain point and then starts to rise again.
The true relationship between water fluoride levels and dental decay is the
J-shaped curve, with the turning point in the J being something between 3
and 4 times the optimal level, they write. Studies show many American
children already exceed this level.
Besides the better known fluoridated dental products, American children are
exposed to artificially and naturally fluoridated water, and the foods and
beverages made with that water then sold in non-fluoridated areas as well.
Some dental products like cements, filling and bonding materials, are
little-known fluoride sources
Medicines, ocean fish, tea, soy baby formulas, fruit juices and
mechanically deboned meat products, and even soda are fluoride sources most
dentists overlook. Air pollution, ocean mist, inhaled shower and humidifier
steam add to a body's fluoride burden, as does fluoride containing
pesticide residues on fruits, vegetables and grains.
Look Ma! More Cavities!!
"Here in Toronto we've been fluoridating for 37 years. Yet Vancouver, which
has never fluoridated, has a cavity rate lower than Toronto's," says Hardy
Limeback, head of the Department of Preventive Dentistry, University of Toronto
Despite decades of fluoridation, Connecticut, New York City, and Boston
report oral health care crises.
Ireland is the only country in Europe to fluoridate most of its population
(73%). Yet, Ireland ranks 6th in Europe in dental decay behind 4 countries
that don't fluoridate and the 10% fluoridated UK. And non-fluoridated
Norwegians, reportedly, enjoy good dental health.
Back here in America, after over 50 years of fluoridation and scrutiny,
more severe fluorosis and more children's tooth decay occurs in fluoridated
Newburgh, New York, than in never-fluoridated Kingston, New York, according
to the NYS Department of Health.
Based on thirty years of study on nearly half a million children, Teotia
and Teotia report "Our findings indicate that dental caries was caused by
high fluoride and low dietary calcium intakes, separately and through their
interactions," according to the journal, Fluoride.
In fact, according to the US Centers for Disease Control "The prevalence of
dental caries in a population is not inversely related to the concentration
of fluoride in enamel, and a higher concentration of enamel fluoride is not
necessarily more efficacious in preventing dental caries."
So what good is fluoride, after all?
Fluoridation gave organized dentistry long-desired but little earned
credibility and respect in the 1950's. Dentists are still at the forefront
of virtually every fluoridation initiative across the country. And
fluoridation has given them political viability, according to their
journals. But, it seems fluoride may only be giving our children more
cavities.
Suite 101 September 14, 2001

Vital Functions of Salt in the Body

2007-04-26 20:59:03

Vital Functions of Salt in the Body
1. Salt is most effective in stabilizing irregular heartbeats and, Contrary
to the misconception that it causes high blood pressure, it is actually
essential for the regulation of blood pressure - in conjunction with water.
Naturally the proportions are critical.
2. Salt is vital to the extraction of excess acidity from the cells in the
body, particularly the brain cells.
3. Salt is vital for balancing the sugar levels in the blood; a needed
element in diabetics.
4. Salt is vital for the generation of hydroelectric energy in cells in the
body. It is used for local power generation at the sites of energy need by
the cells.
5. Salt is vital to the nerve cells' communication and information
processing all the time that the brain cells work, from the moment of
conception to death.
6. Salt is vital for absorption of food particles through the intestinal tract.
7. Salt is vital for the clearance of the lungs of mucus plugs and sticky
phlegm, particularly in asthma and cystic fibrosis.
8. Salt is vital for clearing up catarrh and congestion of the sinuses.
9. Salt is a strong natural antihistamine.
10. Salt is essential for the prevention of muscle cramps.
11. Salt is vital to prevent excess saliva production to the point that it
flows out of the mouth during sleep. Needing to constantly mop up excess
saliva indicates salt shortage.
12. Salt is absolutely vital to making the structure of bones firm.
Osteoporosis, in a major way, is a result of salt and water shortage in the
body.
13. Salt is vital for sleep regulation. It is a natural hypnotic.
14. Salt is a vitally needed element in the treatment of diabetics.
15. Salt on the tongue will stop persistent dry coughs.
16. Salt is vital for the prevention of gout and gouty arthritis.
17. Salt is vital for maintaining sexuality and libido.
18. Salt is vital for preventing varicose veins and spider veins on the
legs and thighs.
19. Salt is vital to the communication and information processing nerve
cells the entire time that the brain cells work - from the moment of
conception to death.
20. Salt is vital for reducing a double chin. When the body is short of
salt, it means the body really is short of water. The salivary glands sense
the salt shortage and are obliged to produce more saliva to lubricate the
act of chewing and swallowing and also to supply the stomach with water
that it needs for breaking down foods. Circulation to the salivary glands
increases and the blood vessels become "leaky" in order to supply the
glands with water to manufacture saliva. The "leakiness" spills beyond the
area of the glands themselves, causing increased bulk under the skin of the
chin, the cheeks and into the neck.
21. Sea salt contains about 80 mineral elements that the body needs. Some
of these elements are needed in trace amounts. Unrefined sea salt is a
better choice of salt than other types of salt on the market. Ordinary
table salt that is bought in the super markets has been stripped of its
companion elements and contains additive elements such as aluminum silicate
to keep it powdery and porous. Aluminum is a very toxic element in our
nervous system. It is implicated as one of the primary causes of
Alzheimer's disease.
22. Twenty-seven percent of the body's salt is in the bones. Osteoporosis
results when the body needs more salt and takes it from the body. Bones are
twenty-two percent water. Is it not obvious what happens to the bones when
we're deficient in salt or water or both.
* The information on salt intake is taken from Dr. Batmanghelidj's book,
"Water: Rx for a Healthier Pain-Free Life".
http://www.curezone.com/foods/saltcure.asp
http://www.curezone.com/foods/watercure.asp

Re: [hypothyroidism] Intro and synthyroid question

2007-04-26 20:41:45

Annette,

I will share with you the thoughts of my doctor, Dr. Derry, who has many happy patients.

Dr. Derry says he gets his best results from using natural dessicated thyroid (in the US that would be Armour Thyroid). He raises the dose until hyper symptoms are seen, then backs off to a level where the patient feels good and keeps it there.

He does not rely on the blood tests, which are unreliable.

Once you are on the correct dose, you should not need an antidepressant.

I strongly suggest you go to http://www.delphi.com and create a username and password for yourself. Then type "thyroid" into the search engine and the Delphi thyroid forum will pop up. You should go and post your questions there as well. The amount of knowledge and wisdom available on that forum is quite impressive. It has changed my life for the better.

Salt

2007-04-26 12:37:09

Natural Salts are an essential element in the diet of not only humans but of
animals, and even of many plants.
Use of natural salt is as old as human history.
Salt and water are most important life essentials.
In areas wher people have access to god salt and good water, diseasess are
rare.
Natural Salt is one of the most effective and most widely used of all food
seasonons and natural preservatives.
Unrefined sea salt contain 98.0 % NaCl (sodium-chloride) and up to 2.0% other
minerals (salts) : Epsom salts and other Magnesium salts, Calcium salts,
Potassium (Kalium) salts, Manganese salts, Phosphorus salts, Iodine salts, ll
together 80 minerals... This salt have been used since begining of life, by
ocean plants, animals and by your ancestostors.
It is this 2% of other minerals that makes differnce between health and
diseases.
Refined salt (Table Salt) is 99.9% NaCl (sodium-chloride), (chemical as
clean as
Heroin or White Sugar) . It always contain additives, like Kalium-Iodide or
Potassium-Iodide (added to the salt to avoid Iodine deficiency disease of
thyroid gland) , Sugar (added to stabilize Iodine and as anti-caking
chemical), Aluminum silicate.
(Percentage is referring to the percentage of dry matter. Salt could have up to
20% water.)
Refined (table) salt is used last 50 - 100 years (depend of the country).
Accoring to FDA of most countries, it is safe to eat refined table salt.
Refined table salt is the only recommended salt for human consumption in USA
This is the greatest health fraud !!!!
Ask any person who knows something about livestock, what kind of salt is given
to animals.
If animals get refined salt, animals get sick.
Farmers will never feed animals with refined salt.
Vet is too exoensive!
But, it is all ok for humans. ????
It is all ok, IF YOU WANT TO GET SICK !
Liver problems, gallstones, Kidney problems, Heart diseases, diabetes, thyroid
problems, lung problems, cancers ... are just some of the results of this
terrible "satanism" !
Word "satanism" is not used to represent worshiping of satan. It represent
worshiping of ignorants, stupidity and diseases.
Get lIfe ! - Get salt and water!
For more info:
http://www.curezone.com/foods/saltcure.asp

eliminate herpes? how?

2007-04-26 02:04:51

Okay, I'll bite! How do you eliminate herpes Earl?
thanks,
Tina
"Mary:
herpes can be eliminated quite readily.
Medically trained personnel cannot eliminate candida, viruses, nor most
pathogens.
Earl"

Intro and synthyroid question

2007-04-26 00:45:52

Hi,
I'm new here. Just thought I would introduce myself. I have have been
feeling tired for months and had constipation for years. I have had
dramatic thining of my hair over about a 6 mo. period. I have been
evaluated for lupus. All my blood tests came back normal. Dr. of
course put me on antidepressant that helped some. Another dr. said
possibly hypoglycemia.
Anyway a Dr. that happens to be a friend suggested my problem might
be hypothyroid. She prescribed synthyroid .025mg. I took my first
dose this morning and it seemed to help with the blurry vision and
gave me energy. I also got very warm. However, this evening I went
back to cold hand and blurry vision. My question is how do I know
what the right dose is and will it build up in my system to maintain
a constant level that does not fluctuate? Also, are thyroid and
hypoglycemia related or do they just have similar symptoms?
I would appreciate your thoughts and advise.
Thanks!
Annette

Re: [hypothyroidism] Wilson's treatment

2007-04-25 13:57:21

Here is the explanation of Wilson's treatment from the Wilson's Foundation Website. The link to their extensive and informative site is: http://www.wilsonssyndrome.com/ I think they do a better job of explaining themselves than their oponents do. Linda in LA
In the late 1980's, Dr. Wilson noticed that certain symptoms often responded well to a certain kind of thyroid medicine given in a certain way to raise low body temperatures. Unexpectedly, those symptoms and temperatures often remained improved even after the treatment was discontinued!Does that make the symptoms "thyroid symptoms" or "temperature symptoms"? On one hand, they are thyroid symptoms:
The symptoms of Wilson's Thyroid Syndrome (WTS) are classic of low thyroid system function.
They respond well to a certain thyroid treatment.
The most compelling evidence that Wilson's Thyroid Syndrome is a thyroid problem is that the symptoms often remain improved even after the thyroid treatment's been discontinued. This suggests that WTS is a reversible thyroid problem. On the other hand, they are low body temperature symptoms in the sense that the symptoms and body temperature are so closely related that Dr. Wilson has come to believe that the low body temperature is actually what causes the symptoms.How can a low body temperature cause so many symptoms? Virtually all of the chemical reactions that take place in our bodies are catalyzed by enzymes. Enzymes are proteins that are dependent upon their shape, or conformation, for their activity. When enzymes are too hot they are too loose, when they are too cold they are too tight, and in either extreme the enzymes are not the right shape and cannot function optimally. When the body temperature is too low, nearly all of the enzymes in the body function less
effectively. This can cause a very wide variety of complaints.
It's well known that high fevers (107 degrees F) can cause brain damage and even death, and that very low body temperatures (< 90 degrees F) can also be life-threatening. Likewise, a temperature a little above normal (say 100 degrees) is plenty of reason to feel badly and be excused from school or work. Clearly, temperatures that are just as low as 100 degrees is high can easily explain a classic set of symptoms. It is obvious that we are looking at a continuum, and in order to function optimally, the body must be at the optimal temperature.
Classically, people with Wilson's Thyroid Syndrome get symptoms that tend to:
Come on or worsen under periods of severe physical or emotional stress.
Persist even after the stress has passed.
Can get worse in stages with each subsequent stress. In addition, there are people who seem much more prone to developing WTS. Their symptoms tend to:
Come on earlier in life. So early that some patients may not even know what it feels like to be normal.
Worsen more gradually over time. Those who seem most prone to developing Wilson's Thyroid Syndrome are those whose ancestors survived famine, such as Irish, Scot, Welsh, American Indian, Russian, etc.. Most susceptible of all seem to be those who are part Irish, and part American Indian. But under severe circumstances people of any nationality can develop Wilson's Thyroid Syndrome. About 80% of Wilson's Thyroid Syndrome sufferers are women.
Wilson's Thyroid Syndrome is a Reversible Thyroid Problem
There's treatable and then there's reversible, or "curable." A condition is treatable when a treatment is able to control the symptoms as long as the patients continue the treatment. A condition is reversible when the symptoms remain improved even after the treatment's been discontinued. The prevailing thinking is that if people have a low thyroid problem then they must take thyroid medicine for life. However, taking a medicine for life is not really a cure. Proper treatment of WTS appears to reset people's thyroid systems so that they can function well on their own again. There are probably far more people with WTS than all other low thyroid problems combined. And, Wilson's Thyroid Syndrome appears to be the only one that is reversible.

cholesterol

2007-04-25 08:39:13

It is a very interesting website but I followed their
diet for a few months and that is when my hypo
symptoms started. I have tried to be vegetarian
several times and I always get very weak and tired and
cold until I start eating meats again. It does not
work for everyone.
Mary C-MI

Re: wilson's?? (was: My first post, HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

2007-04-25 02:17:40

Liquid thermometers take an average of the body temp for the time
period. Digitals are not recommended. You can still find good, cheap
liquid ones.
Rennie

RE: [hypothyroidism] miscarriage (was: Intro)

2007-04-24 15:33:50

Lynnda:
Miscarriages and poor fetal health is a result of excess estrogen...from the
pill, HRT, fat cells, spray residues on food, soy products.
Excess estrogen is combated by restoring thyroid function and using a
natural progesterone cream or spray.
Also most of the food in America is from eroded soil [meaning no food value]
and drenched in toxic sprays. [which are estrogenic as well as lethal].
Good nutrition is paramount. www.hacres.com has some good nutritional data.
They advise mostly raw [organically grown food], raw vege juices made fresh,
barley green and a detox program.
If you want healthy babies, you have to become healthy yourself.
Mindy's suggestions are excellent...if done in addition to the above.
Earl

RE: [hypothyroidism] wilson's?? (was: My first post, HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

2007-04-24 14:21:46

Carrie:
Here's the data on Wilsons syndrome.
Earl
Wilson's syndrome is an anomaly not a condition!
Dr. Wilson [medically trained] had a number of patients who exhibited all
the symptoms of thyroid dysfunction. The blood tests however were all
"normal."
So, the anomaly is...
Dr. Wilson concluded that these people were OK or were disturbed or
imagining their symptoms, since their blood tests indicated that their
thyroid function was..."normal."
Probable facts:
1-most women and many men DO have symptoms of thyroid dysfunction
2-blood tests are highly inaccurate and do not reflect the condition of the
thyroid
3-auto-immune dysfunctions are experienced by a huge number of people
4-auto-immune dysfunctions are conditions where the immune system makes
antibodies that destroy the thyroid gland [or other systems]
5-the big question therefore is.....
why does the immune system, in its wisdom, make antibodies that destroy
the thyroid gland?
6-orthodox practitioners admit that they do not know the reason for
auto-immune dysfunctions
7-scientific researchers have established that the causes of auto-immune
dysfunctions are...
a-presence of herpes virus [including Epstein-Barr virus,
cytomegalovirus]that invades thyroid [or other systems] and injects viral
DNA into the cell nucleus which then produces viral DNA which is a foreign
protein or not self...and the immune system then makes antibodies to destroy
the not self.
b-presence of Candida or 'the fluke' or giardia or an STD or chlamydia or
any other viral, bacterial, mycotoxin or yeast infiltration. These invaders
take up residence and proliferate, secreting endotoxins. The immune system
perceives this activity as not self and makes antibodies to destroy the
invaded cells.
c-presence of toxins, such as: mercury [amalgam fillings], chlorine or
fluoride in water, excessive radiation [cell phones, computers, TV or cell
phone towers],
8-Stages of auto-immune dysfunctions:
a-the first stage of destruction is where huge quantities of thyroid
hormone are released due to the invasion [both infection and inflammation]
and consequent destruction of thyroid tissues. This is termed
hyperthyroidism. It may also be called Graves Disease, it may also be called
Hashimoto's thyroiditis. Researchers admit they can't denote any real
differences in these syndromes.
1]-orthodox practitioners have only one approach to
hyperthyroidism....destroy the gland!!!!
2]-cytomel or RAI or surgery are the only therapies offered by orthodox
practitioners.
3]-these "therapies" address only the symptoms and do not acknowledge
the causes.
b-the second stage of destruction is denoted by "normal" thyroid function
but with drastic symptoms of thyroid dysfunction. "Normal function" means
that destruction has evolved to the point where a fairly 'normal' amount of
T4 is being secreted....but gland destruction is accelerating.
c-the final stage of thyroid destruction occurs and is characterized by
hypothyroidism or inadequate production of T4.
NOTE: it is possible in many cases that simple deficiencies of iodine,
selenium, zinc, B6, magnesium, trace elements can result in inadequate
production of T4. This is a simple hypothyroidism and can be readily
corrected [not by symthetic or pig replacement] by supplying the required
nutrients...Thyrodine. Our experience however indicates that auto-immune
dysfunctions greatly predominate.
9-The intelligent approach to auto-immune dysfunctions involves...
a-elimination of the pathogenic micro-organisms that cause the auto-immune
dysfunction
b-clearing the gut of toxic debris and killed micro-organisms
c-re-establishing the normal intestinal bacteria and restoring the gut
wall integrity
d-restoring thyroid function
e-regulating all hormonal secretions with a powerful Peruvian, Brazilian,
Chinese herbal formula.
f-it may be necessary to implement a mercury elimination program
g-a Biogenic Nutritional Program provides the needed nutritional guidance
to accomplish the regenerative task along with the herbs and biologicals.
10-These factors are contained in...
1-the Thyroid Regeneration Protocol...which restores thyroid function
2-the Hormone Regeneration Protocol...which restores all hormonal imbalances
All of these details are further elaborated at... www.thyrodine.com
Earl

Re: [hypothyroidism] Armour potency problems?

2007-04-24 07:57:16

In a message dated 09/18/2001 3:43:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, rja86@... writes:

I just talked to a pharmacist, and asked her about Armour. She said
that they just get the thyroid from the pig, dry it and powder it. She
also said that no one knows what condition the pigs thyroid gland is in,
so there can be potent problems as well. It makes sense to me.
I have asked two pharmacists now, and they say also, that Synthroid and
Levoxyl are the highest selling. Anyone hear the same things?

Hi,
I just want to say that, with all respect, this sounds like an extension of the rhetoric that doctors learn in medical school namely, that Synthroid is the only pure way to treat hypothyroidism. I just can't imagine that the manufacturer of Armour is in any way sloppy or unconcerned with the quality of the product they put out. There have certainly been continuing quality checks of all these products. If there were significant quality issues with Armour, the FDA would act to pull it from the market they way they have had to threaten to do with Synthroid, the supposed King of the Market!
Below I've included a quoted section from Gail's Thyroid Tips regarding Synthroid and Armour that tells you more about how Armour is made. It's a little long but I hope it helps to answer your questions.
Linda in LA
Gail's Thyroid Tips can be found at: http://home.usaa.net/~wurmstein/
"OK, why doesnāt synthroid make us feel great then? Well, because some cells in our bodies need the T3 that is made by the thyroid gland directly. They cannot convert T4 into T3; they must have T3 directly from the bloodstream. About 75% of the T3 your body uses is converted by your tissues from T4. But at least 25% of the T3 your body needs comes directly from the thyroid gland. Your different tissues throughout your body use T3 at different rates. And some of the tissues, such as your brain, require serum T3 for good function. These tissues are not adept at converting T4 into T3. Because people with healthy thyroid glands receive at least 25% of their T3 directly from the thyroid gland, hypothyroid patients should also receive direct T3, either from their glands or from their medication. NO ONE SHOULD BE EXPECTED TO GET ALL OF HER T3 FROM T4 CONVERSION. IT SIMPLY IS NOT ENOUGH. And other cells must have T2. So you see, you just donāt get the same effect from synthroid.
Your body demands all 9 of the thyroid hormones that a healthy thyroid gland makes. Desiccated thyroid products come closest to providing the exact hormones your body would make if it could. http://freespace.virgin.net/smokey.quartz/gaby.html
"NOTE: Forest Pharmaceuticals does not "add" calcitonin, T0, T1, or T2 to their product. These hormones are present already because of what Armour is. Armour is desiccated pig thyroid. The thyroid gland is removed from a pig, dried, and then ground to powder.Ā The glands from many pigs are mixed together until testing shows that the T3 to T4 ratio is exactly 1:4.22 (there is 1 mg of T3 for every 4.22 mg of T4).Ā Then binders and fillers are added to produce tablets. So every hormone present in the live gland is also present in the tablet. However, since medical professionals currently believe that only T4 and T3 are active hormones, Forest does not measure or even acknowledge the presence of calcitonin, T0, T1, or T2 in their product. They only measure and guarantee the amount of T3 and T4 in each tablet.Here is a scientific study proving the body needs T3; notice the last sentence of the "conclusions" section clearly states that this study shows your body needs the T3
DIRECTLY SECRETED by the thyroid gland (not the T3 made from T4 conversion). http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/abstract/340/6/424?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&author1=Prange%2C+A&author2=Bunevicius%2C+R&titleabstract=triiodothyronine&fulltext=neuropsychological&searchid=QID_NOT_SET&stored_search=&FIRSTINDEX=&fdate=1/1/1975&tdate=5/31/2001&journalcode=nejm
"OK, now here is some scientific proof that T2 is not some inactive substance ignored by the tissues. Youāve heard that Iām sure. I just got a comprehensive thyroid labwork done and it talked about the T4 levels, the reverse T3, the active T3, and then mentioned T2 as "an inactive byproduct." WRONG! This study is contained in the below link and it is very technical. Several hours with a medical dictionary unlocked the mysteries. Hereās what it basically says, in laymanās terms:Ā --T3 is taken up by the cells and used for protein synthesis. Protein synthesis means the actual building of cells (to replace dead cells, fix damaged cells, and make new cells). So you see, T3 is needed to maintain the tissues of our body.--T2 is taken up by the cells and acts directly on the mitochondria. The T2 is used to produce ATP. ATP is the fuel for our cells; it is the energy our cells use to function. So you see, T2 is absolutely vital for the cells to function. Yes, it is true that a
healthy thyroid gland does not make very much T2. But certain cells in the body depend on it. http://physiology.cup.cam.ac.uk/JPhysiol/1997/505p2/7060/7060 This would explain why so much of your overall body pain goes away when you take Armour and are thus getting plenty of T2; without T2 your cells are starving for ATP.
"I experienced this firsthand myself; when I switched to Armour most of my pain was relieved. I immediately told my hypothyroid sister who has been on 100 mcg synthroid plus 100 mcg of cytomel daily and still hurting all over (100 mcg cytomel is FOUR TIMES the normal daily dose!). She lowered the two synthetic hormones to 75 mcg each and added in a grain of Armour; her body aching improved tremendously within 2 weeks. Even though this provided her with LESS oral T3 intake than she had before, nearly all of her fibromyalgia disappeared! She was left only with some foot and leg pain on one side, but the rest of her body was completely better. We all know that Dr. John Lowe has recommended using T3 to cure those pains (fibromyalgia) and he is right. (http://thyroid.about.com/health/thyroid/library/weekly/aa042799.htm). The T3 is VITAL. However, I offer up my sister as proof that it is more than just T3 we need to use. I have no proof of this, but I believe that it is the T2
(and perhaps the T1---no one has figured out what it does yet) in Armour which produces the kinds of results she had.

Armour potency problems?

2007-04-23 21:51:01

Hi,
I just talked to a pharmacist, and asked her about Armour. She said
that they just get the thyroid from the pig, dry it and powder it. She
also said that no one knows what condition the pigs thyroid gland is in,
so there can be potent problems as well. It makes sense to me.
I have asked two pharmacists now, and they say also, that Synthroid and
Levoxyl are the highest selling. Anyone hear the same things?
Love and take good care,
Reneé and Jerry

Re: [hypothyroidism] vegetarianism/miscarriages

2007-04-23 21:10:45

*nod* Mary, you're right... cholesterol is important. I wonder if vegetarians can eat eggs? They can get much-needed cholesterol and essential fatty acids from eggs.... I hear that some vegetarians can eat eggs and others can't.. so I dunno. *shrug*

--
Mindy, who lost at least 40 lbs by going on a low-carb, ADEQUATE meat-based protein diet... starting at 155 lbs, currently 110 lbs

miscarriage (was: Intro)

2007-04-23 19:02:14

Lynnda,
2 things I can think of.
1. Up your electrolytes big time (which means calcium, magnesium, and
potassium). Make sure you get more than enough every day, whether
through vitamin supplements, food, or both combined.
2. Go to yer local health food store and buy red leaf raspberry tea.
Drink one cup every day. I gave some tea leaves to a friend of mine who
had suffered miscarriage after miscarriage and later infertility, and
within 2 months she was not only pregnant but carried the baby to full
term. (BTW once you do get pregnant, do not take the tea again for 3
months... after 3 months have gone by, you can start taking the tea
again, increasing the amount until you are drinking at least a quart or
two in your last month -- if you keep up with the electrolytes, you will
likely have a painless labor like I did!!! :)
--
Mindy

wilson's?? (was: My first post, HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

2007-04-23 10:39:11

Hi Linda,
I'm clueless, but isn't Wilson's Syndrome about connective tissue
problems? Or am I confusing that with some other Syndrome...
To Carrie: That is strange that you gained so much weight so suddenly.
Linda has a good idea -- go to WalMart and buy a cheap digital
thermometer ($3) and take your temperature at 6 am every morning for a
few days. Also, how much protein are you getting in your diet? You
want to get an adequate daily amount. Focus on eggs because eggs have a
complete range of both essential and "non-essential" amino acids...
other meats such as chicken and beef only have the "essential" amino
acids.
--
Mindy

Re: My first post, HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2007-04-23 05:50:40

---
Earl, Thanks for the info. I am definately intrigued! I have these
sites written down, and cannot wait to explore. I need to get this
figured out. My thyroid used to be so out of control, now it is not
(to my knowledge( but my body still feels as if it is. Thanks again,
Earl.

Re: Help!!!

2007-04-22 21:12:48

Thank you linda:):):) Corrie---

volume list and so is not very busy. I am sure someone will get back
to you on this. I, myself do not feel knowledgeable enough to advise
you in any way.

Jenni

2007-04-22 15:30:10

--Jenni, Thank you for the idea, I will check out this site. I feel
there is so much I do not know about my own problem. Thanks for the
help! Corrie

Linda

2007-04-22 12:09:53

-
Linda,
Thank you for your kind words and advice. I will check that out.
Thanks again, I'll keep u posted.

vegetarianism/miscarriages

2007-04-22 08:33:20

I have to comment that although the vegetarian raw
food diet seems so healthy, and in fact I felt great
the first few weeks I was on it, shortly afterward my
hypo hyroid symptoms started. I had been told in the
past that people need animal origin foods to get the
kind of fat that cholesterol is made from, and
hormones are made from cholesterol. Thyroid is a
hormone . . .
I personally need to eat a little meat every day or I
get extremely tired.
============================
Lynnda, my heart goes out to you with 4 miscarriages.
I have heard that many women previously unable to
carry a child or even to become pregnant, had those
situations corrected once they were on thyroid
medication. So you are probably on the right track.
Mary C-MI

hairloss and thyroid meds

2007-04-22 02:57:25

I am on Levoxyl now, and have side effects also. I have tried several
others and my alopecia is extremely bad. Hair all over. Has anyone
found a thyroid med. that doesn't cause hairloss? Thank you so much.
Love and take good care,
Reneé and Jerry

Re: [hypothyroidism] Help!!!

2007-04-21 15:57:48

Corrie, you may need a medication containing T3, like Armour.

I suggest you go to http://www.delphi.com, make yourself a user name and password, and then do a search for "thyroid" - that will bring up the delphi thyroid forum. It is an extremely valuable source of information.

Re: [hypothyroidism] My first post, HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2007-04-21 08:32:46

In a message dated 09/17/2001 5:36:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, cebllam@... writes:

Hello, MY name is Corrie. I am 23 years old, and have had
hypothyroidism for 7 years. I have a history of anorexia, weighing
86lbs at one point (i am 5'7.5") When my thyroid slowed, i went from
100lbs to 180lbs in 6 months! Now, 7 years later, I have been a
healthy 140 for a long time (even having a 2 year old) NOW.....For no
reason, I have gained 17.5 lbs in 3 weeks. My tsh levels are at 1.5,
and the doc says they are fine. What is wrong, and what do i do?????
Help!!!

Hi Carrie,
I'm new, too. You might do some research on the Wilson's Syndrome page and see if it sounds like it might help. That's what I'm doing because my TSH is .03 and all my T4/T3 blood levels read that I'm "fine." Yet I continue to gain weight and feel terrible in spite of dieting and exercise, etc. Wilson's is controversial but I've tried everything else to feel well. So I found a doc near me who's taken about 500 people through the protocol. I'm waiting for my T3 starter kit to come so I can get started.
Wilson's people are typically denoted as having chronic low body temperature. I've been taking mine for the past three weeks; it averages 96.5 degrees! You might start just taking your temperature in the mornings before getting up. Anything below 97.2 on a consistent basis is really not healthy no matter what traditional docs say, IMO!
Good luck!
Linda
"We are each responsible for our own life--no other person is or even *can* be." Oprah Winfrey
http://geocities.com/llheinsohn/index.html

Help!!!

2007-04-21 07:40:32

I just posted, but it has not appeared yet. Did I do this
incorrectly? I really need advice on what to eat, what not to eat,
etc.... The doctors don't really tell you anything. I have had
hypothyroidism for a long toime, but it was under controll. Now it is
completley out of whack. (like when I was first diagnosed) Any ideas
on what to avoid, etc... would be very helpful. FYI, I am on levoxyl.
Thanks so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

My first post, HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2007-04-20 15:45:06

Hello, MY name is Corrie. I am 23 years old, and have had
hypothyroidism for 7 years. I have a history of anorexia, weighing
86lbs at one point (i am 5'7.5") When my thyroid slowed, i went from
100lbs to 180lbs in 6 months! Now, 7 years later, I have been a
healthy 140 for a long time (even having a 2 year old) NOW.....For no
reason, I have gained 17.5 lbs in 3 weeks. My tsh levels are at 1.5,
and the doc says they are fine. What is wrong, and what do i do?????
Help!!!

RE: [hypothyroidism] early menopause or thyroid?

2007-04-20 13:09:45

Hello
I am very interested in this post as I have been diagnosed with Hashimotos
and I have been on the depo for 6 years. I am wondering what type of
hormones this is and would this have an effect. I never put 2 and 2
together as they tell you that weight gain etc is normal.
Candi

intro and question)

2007-04-20 11:28:11

In a message dated 09/11/2001 2:25:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mindy@... writes:

You think Americans ingest too much iodine? Where does iodine come from? I'm pretty clueless... I'd heard that Americans don't get enough iodine, hence the need for extra iodine.

Yes, Americans get too much iodine. Since the 30s when due to goiter showing up in folks in middle America due to iodine deficiency in the soil, iodine has been put into salt everywhere! (You do know you can buy plain salt, don't you? No iodine added.) I love America but sometimes we seem to get steamrolling into too much of a good thing! Just like how we put flouride in public water systems and then use it to wash the car, the dog, and water the lawn!
I think you might be confusing what you've heard about world populations and iodine deficiency. It is true that some folks in Third World countries don't get enough iodine. Goiter is still a problem in less developed areas of the world, but definitely NOT the USA! So that's why I recommend and why many natural therapy doctors, even my traditionally trained endo recommends anyone who's got a thyroid problem to go easy on foods that contain iodine at least until their condition is stabilized and they can recognize if they're getting a reaction from iodine in their diet.
I hope that answered your question. If not, write back!
Linda in LA
"We are each responsible for our own life--no other person is or even *can* be." Oprah Winfrey
http://geocities.com/llheinsohn/index.html

intro and question)

2007-04-20 01:35:52

Also, if you Have Hashimotos disease, iodine can make things worse, so
the dr. says. ;) Just a thought.
Love and take good care,
Reneé and Jerry

intro and question)

2007-04-19 15:47:52

Linda,
You think Americans ingest too much iodine? Where does iodine come from? I'm pretty clueless... I'd heard that Americans don't get enough iodine, hence the need for extra iodine.

--
Mindy

can thyroid meds cause increased allergy shot reactions??

2007-04-19 12:27:32

I get weekly allergy injections (immunotherapy).
Since starting Levothroid I have been having frequent
reactions to my shots on lower doses than I tolerated
before ("mosquito bite" larger than size of a
quarter). Anyone know if there's a connection?
Neither my allergist or PCP think there is.
Thanks,
Mary C-MI

early menopause or thyroid?

2007-04-19 04:32:57

Mindy,
Have you been on any hormones such as Depo Provera?
My periods didn't return until 8 months after stopping
Depo shots. 26 seems awfully early for early
menopause-I thought 40 was too young in my own case!
LOL Anyway my thyroid problems also seemed to start
with the Depo. Anyone else?
Mary C-MI

levothyroxine mentioned in news neport

2007-04-19 03:50:30

just some fuel for a fire....saraLou
DRUG FIRMS 'FUND BIASED RESEARCH' WARN EDITORS
News Report from the UK newspaper 'The Independent'
by Jeremy Laurance, Health Editor
September 10th, 2001
"THE GLOBAL pharmaceutical industry is accused today of manipulating
scientific research to boost its commercial interests at the expense
of patients.
In a joint statement, a dozen of the world's leading medical journals
have agreed to ban publication of research that they do not consider
to be independent. They say drug companies who pay for research
increasingly control the design of studies, how results are analysed
and whether findings are published. Findings that are not in their
interests are censored.
Thus, a study of a drug for HIV submitted to the Journal of the
American Medical Association last November was manipulated when the
study's sponsors refused to provide all the data to the scientists
running the trial. In another case, Boots tried to suppress a study
four years ago that failed to show its product levothyroxine,
prescribed for thyroid problems, was superior to its rivals. "The use
of clinical trials primarily for marketing in our view makes a
mockery of clinical investigation... corporate sponsors have been
able to dictate the terms of participation in the trial, terms that
are not always in the best interests of academic investigators, the
study participants or the advancement of science generally," the
joint statement from the International Committee of Medical Journal
Editors says.
Concern over drug companies' influence on medical research has been
growing for years. The rising cost of developing and testing new
drugs has led the companies to control research data to protect their
investment.
But the editors of the journals, which include the British Medical
Journal and The Lancet, say the process has gone too far.
Richard Horton, editor of the latter, said: "We are all completely
fed up with being manipulated by the industry. Nine out of ten
research papers about new drugs submitted to The Lancet are so hyped
in favour of the drug that we cant publish them without revisions.
There may be a design flaw or the adverse effects have been
underplayed or the results over-interpreted. Research papers are now
used more as a marketing exercise than as scientific reports."
Often scientists were happy to rewrite their papers when flaws were
exposed in them, Dr Horton noted. "It looks to us that they come
under pressure from their sponsors and that they welcome the reality
check we provide."
Patients in the trials were hoodwinked into thinking they were
advancing medical science when actually they were being used in a
marketing exercise. "That is a subversion of patient consent," he
said.
The withdrawal of state funding for medical research had accentuated
the problem. "But as soon as you abandon medical research and leave
it to the drug industry, you are playing Russian roulette," he added.
Richard Smith, editor of the British Medical Journal, said many drug
companies had high ethical standards. "Other groups, including
hospitals and governments, may often be keen to control publication,
especially if results appear to contradict current policy."
Scientists submitting research papers to the journals will in future
be asked to sign a declaration that they accept full responsibility
for their study, had access to all the data and controlled the
decision to publish."

Re: [hypothyroidism] Thyrodine - iodine ingredient?

2007-04-18 18:49:07

Kelp?
Love and take good care,
Reneé and Jerry

Re: intro and question

2007-04-18 16:21:10

Hi Mindy,
I'm new, too. Have been hypo for years that went untreated because
the TSH kept showing normal and I was too ill informed about the
importance of getting on prescription drugs for what was bothering me.
Regarding your plan to up your intake of iodine I'd say to proceed
with caution. Pay extra attention to how you feel on that diet
because here in the US, where we have iodine coming out our ears,
lots of people, including me, have become allergic to iodine and it
actually causes more thyroid problems than it cures.
Best advice I have for all you've got going on right now would be to
definitely find a good, caring doctor who will listen to you and pay
attention to you. If any doc just assumes you're fine and all you
need is an anti-depressant, change docs until you find someone who
will treat you as a person with a brain and an awareness of your body.
Good luck and let us know how you do1
Linda in LA

intro and question

2007-04-18 12:59:47

Hello,
I should introduce myself. :) My name is Mindy. I'm 26 years old,
have 2 kids, and am showing signs of some sort of a problem - either
early menopause or hypothyroidism. Haven't been to the doctor yet, and
I need to know what tests to ask for if/when I do go.
Here are my symptoms: During my lactation amenorrhea phase with each
child, I experience/d extreme vaginal dryness and atrophy. No,
lubrication doesn't help. It is extremely painful and vexing. (BTW
lactational amenorrhea means that your period stops when you
breastfeed. My youngest is 16 months old and he only has one or two
nips a day, far less than what seems normal to stimulate amenorrhea - so
I'm thinking something is very wrong with my body.) I also suffer from
constipation (averaging one elimination a week - sorry for the gross
detail!)
I don't have any of the other classic symptoms, such as hair loss or
cold hands.
Let's see....what else? I had gestational diabetes both times while
pregnant. Gained a TON of weight and was clinically obese after the
birth of my second son. Lost it all and more on a low-carb diet. In
fact, I'm quickly approaching my ideal body weight and shape through
exercise, low-carb diet, and EC combos.
I plan on taking 40mg of Red Clover each day (phyto-estrogen) along with
a bit of progesterone cream. I also plan on drinking a lemonade with
molasses each day, and plenty of tuna, sardines, and oysters. I take a
multivitamin with an additional B-vitamin complex each day.
Any tips, comments, appreciated.
Mindy

Re: Hi! I'm new...

2007-04-18 00:46:47

It's all related. It's not your imagination. The best book I ever
read was "The Thyroid Sourcebook" by M. Sara Rosenthal. It puts
everything into perspective. The more you learn about
hypothyroidism, the better you will be able to take care of yourself.
Listen to your body. You know yourself better than anybody. Find a
doctor who understands the situation and is open to your ideas. The
doctor who diagnosed my hypothyroidism couldn't manage the illness
over the long haul. He was good at diagnosing, but didn't understand
the complete problem. There are many syndromes that are connected to
having hypothyroidism. You may have several yourself, I do. Just
remember, you are not a hypochondriac. There is something wrong with
your immune system and you're not crazy. The biggest step is getting
diagnosed. Good luck and God bless. Sally

Thyrodine - iodine ingredient?

2007-04-17 22:22:23

On the Thyrodine web site, they say it has a "unique source" of
iodine... I was wondering if anyone knows what this unique source was?
Also, does anyone know of any natural sources of dietary or supplemental
iodine?
Thanks!
Mindy

Normal Levels

2007-04-17 12:01:06

Hi. I'm new to the group. It took me 6-7 years and a bunch of
doctors to get one that would finally listen to me about my TSH
level. For mine to be normal for me, it has to be really, really
low. I know this probably borders on hyper, but I don't have the
other problems associated with hypo when the TSH is really low. I am
currently taking .175 mcg of Synthroid and I feel great. When my TSH
starts to go up, I get lots of aches and pains, cranky, etc. SO,
the "normal" range is not normal for everybody. It's a shame we don't
all have a baseline blood test from before we went hypo. Then it
would be easier to establish normal for everyone.

Hi! I'm new...

2007-04-17 09:31:28

I'm 33 & trying to get this under control. Anyone have any advice?
Doctor doesn't seem to think all of my symptoms are related, but he
can't find anything else wrong with me. He keeps telling me I'm
normal, whatever that means. Belle

Newbie

2007-04-17 08:50:06

Hi! I'm Babette and 37. I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism when I
was 11 years old. It's been a very long stuggle ~ doctor's don't
seem to have the answers. I'm seeing a new endo on the 18th ~ I'm
hoping he will be better (open minded) than the rest. Well, I guess
thats all for now. I'm glad I found this forum.
~ Babette ~

Re: [hypothyroidism] Blood test accuracy

2007-04-16 18:00:05

Jason,
A dr. should go by the lab tests AND symptoms. If he/she doesn't, then
maybe get a second opinion.
Love and take good care,
Reneé and Jerry

Blood test accuracy

2007-04-16 12:40:57

Hi everyone,
I just got a blood test for my thyroid, and it came out normal. From
what I understand, this is nothing unusual, and that sometimes you
just have to treat the symptoms.. Is this true? How often is the
blood test accurate? Are there any other ways of testing the
thyroid? Thanks,
Jason

RE: [hypothyroidism] TSH Normal? tsk, tsk. &lt;g&gt;

2007-04-16 11:16:01

Prtha:
My data suggests that this spread is "normal!"
However, since most blood tests are inaccurate, it hardly matters.
We have been lead to believe that laboratory blood tests are straight from
Mt.Zion, but when you read the knowledgeable people [including the late
Broda Barnes], you'll find that these tests vary from test to test, lab to
lab, time of day, year, etc., not to mention lab goofs.
To depend on highly questionable lab results is pretty thin disgnostics.
Earl

Just Detected

2007-04-16 06:45:31

Hello to everyone,
Recently it was detected that my TSH is slightly on the higher side 6.1
units.This has been diagnosed as a sub clinical Hypothyroidism.
I have decided to begin with Homeopathy.
I need advice in this matter .What are the dietary precautions.
Also please let me know whether headache is one of the symptoms of
Hypothyroidism.
MUKARRAM NAQVI

TSH Normal? tsk, tsk. &lt;g&gt;

2007-04-16 01:14:41

Dear Earl,
I was disappointed to hear/read you tell someone that their tsh of 2.54 is
normal or that a tsh up to 6.0 is normal. Now, maybe I am not understanding
what you are saying, but anything over 2 is not normal in most cases and even 2
is questionable. One is generally normal, tho there are even some who need to
keep their tsh UNDER 1, which most doctors get upset over because according to
"tests" this is hyper, but according to symptoms, it usually is not. Dr Richard
Shames uses this approach, and has had great success. (He has a great book on
this and other important issues about hypot, called Thyroid Power.) Now, others
may not not go below 1, but there are some open minded endocrinologists out
there who agree that between 1 and 2 is normal, and nothing over that! Please
see Marys link for info on why 2.4 would not be considered normal, unless of
course, the person feels better.
http://thyroid.tqn.com/library/weekly/aa060198.html
Thanks for listening to my ramblings. :)
Prtha

Re: [hypothyroidism] Levoxyl

2007-04-15 20:58:30

I was on Levoxyl for 4 years. Was tired all the time. I was switched to
Synthroid after my surgery 3 weeks ago and feel much better with the
Synthroid. (or should I say so far).
CHRISTEL

Levoxyl

2007-04-15 10:30:49

I just came home from endocrinologist. He switched me from Synthroid to
Levoxyl 112mcg. Said tho, that Levoxyl is just the generic of Synthroid.
I didn't want to take generic meds, but will try this. Also lowered the
cytomel to 10mcg. from 12mcg.
He said he would work with me on the T4 meds and ultimately take the one
that I feel best on. He won't keep increasing dose tho. Has anyone been
on Levoxyl for a long time and has energy? Dr. said that its the T3 that
gives the energy. Thanks
Take care.
Love, Health and Peace,
Reneé and Jerry

Maine - Mercury Amalgam Filling Toxicity

2007-04-15 06:50:47

Press Release
Maine Passes Legislation Guaranteeing Accurate Patient Information on
Mercury Amalgam Filling Toxicity
Augusta, Maine August 23, 2001
Maine Governor Angus King today signed the most advanced bill in the
United States requiring dentists to inform their patients that amalgam
dental fillings contain a large percentage of the toxic element
mercury, which can be harmful to the wearer's health.
In his preliminary remarks before signing the bill, Gov. King noted
that Maine has probably taken more action to get mercury out of the air
and water than any other state in the union. "And yet we all carry it
around in our mouths," he remarked.
Senate President Michael Michaud spearheaded the bill and
Representatives Joanne Twoomey and Steven Stanley, all of whom were
present, spoke at the signing. Consumer advocates Pam Anderson and
Dr. Tom Anderson, a mercury-free dentist from Houlton, ME, who led
grassroots support for the bill, participated in the ceremony as well.
Senate President Michaud cited the courage of the many individuals who
testified on behalf of the bill, especially the dentists who came
forward to endorse it despite the opposition of the American Dental
Association. "We hope that the U.S. will take Maine's lead and move
forward with legislation at the national level," he said.
The bill mandates that every dentist's office will feature a poster and
a brochure informing patients about the presence of mercury in amalgam
fillings and about its negative health effects.
Scientific research has shown that dental amalgam is the chief source
of mercury in the human body. For that reason Rep. Twoomey described
the bill as a major step forward for women of childbearing age and for
children, who receive their first exposure to mercury in the womb and
from their mother's breast milk. Mercury has been implicated in
neurological disorders of children such as autism and ADD/ADHD,
and in fertility problems in women.
"We are delighted that this bill has been signed," said Rep. Stanley.
It is a major step forward to protect the health of Maine citizens."
Pam Anderson added that the group hopes Maine's next step would be to
ban the use of dental amalgam in all women of childbearing age and in
children.
Other participants in the press conference were Kathleen McGee,
Director of the Maine Toxic Action Coalition; Maine DAMS
(Dental Amalgam Mercury Syndrome) Coordinator Marjorie Monteleone,
and New Hampshire DAMS Coordinator Rosie Cronen; representatives from
the Maine People's Alliance, the Maine Citizens for
Affordable Health Care, and the
Maine Department of Environmental Protection;
Dr. Gerald Vermette, mercury-free dentist; Rosemary Fecteau, Ph.D.,
whose husband died of mercury toxicity from his dental fillings;
Charles Brown, attorney for the national organization
Consumers for Dental Choice; and
New York City DAMS Coordinator Dr. Lydia Bronte, author of a widely
respected book, THE MERCURY IN YOUR MOUTH: The Truth About "Silver"
Dental Fillings.
"The public is being deceived by the terminology used for these
fillings," said Charles Brown in his remarks. "The ADA calls them
"silver" fillings, but they are really MERCURY fillings. If people
knew the principal ingredient is mercury they would not want these
fillings in their teeth."
Gov. King compared the current use of mercury in dental fillings with
the 1950's use in shoe stores of powerful x-ray machines called
fluoroscopes, which exposed hundreds of thousands of adults and
children to high doses of toxic x-rays. "Every child who went into
the shoe store to buy new shoes would put his feet into the
fluoroscope so the bones could be seen," King recalled. "People who
worked in the store were exposed to the radiation all day; children
played games around the machine. Now we realize it was a terrible
thing to do, but then it seemed perfectly normal. Some day we will
wonder how we could ever have put such a toxic substance into the
human mouth."
***********************************************************************

Phytoestrogen Therapy for Menopausal Symptoms?

2007-04-14 22:25:16

Phytoestrogen Therapy for Menopausal Symptoms?
http://www.mercola.com/2001/aug/29/phytoestrogen.htm
There's No Good Evidence That It's Any Better Than Placebo
By Susan R Davis, FRACP, PhD
Popular media would have us believe that plant constituents with a phenolic
structure similar to estrogen, known as phyto (plant) estrogens, provide a
natural alternative to the use of postmenopausal hormone replacement
therapy. Are the popular media right?
Phytoestrogens, found in a wide variety of edible plants, may display both
estrogenic and antiestrogenic effects.
Epidemiological studies, primarily comparing Asian and Western populations,
have been interpreted to indicate that consumption of a diet rich in
phytoestrogens ameliorates estrogen deficiency symptoms in postmenopausal
women and may protect against breast cancer, bone loss, and cardiovascular
disease.
Consequently there is a global movement towards increased consumption of
foods rich in phytoestrogens, and tablet formulations of concentrated
isoflavone extracts are being heavily promoted.
However, more recent intervention studies question the validity of the
proposed benefits of phytoestrogen supplementation, with little data in
postmenopausal women to support a role for phytoestrogens as an alternative
to conventional hormone replacement therapy.
The biological actions of these compounds are extremely complex. Their
ultimate cellular actions are determined by many factors, including the
relative levels of estrogen receptors and , the diverse mix of coactivators
and corepressors present in any given cell type, and the nature of the
response elements with which the receptors interact on the estrogen
regulated genes.1
Effects vary according to the phytoestrogen studied, cell line, tissue,
species, and the response being evaluated. Hence results from in vitro and
in vivo studies are inconsistent.
Japanese women are said to experience a lower frequency of hot flushes at
the menopause than Western women, and this has been partly attributed to
their high phytoestrogen consumption.2
However, the apparently low frequency of hot flushes in Japanese women may
be due to underreporting of symptoms rather than a genuinely lower prevalence.
The first study to show that certain dietary phytoestrogens can exert mild
estrogenic effects in postmenopausal women was published in 1990 and showed
an increase in the vaginal cell maturation index (an indicator of
estrogenic activity).3
Subsequent reports of their effects on vasomotor symptoms have not been
consistent. Considerable differences exist between studies, with no clear
correlation between estrogenic changes in vaginal cytology and effects on
vasomotor symptoms.
In a placebo controlled study Murkies et al showed no benefit of soy over
wheat flour supplementation for hot flushes and vaginal cytology after 12
weeks.4 Similarly, in a study of soy versus linseed versus wheat
supplemented diets the reduction in the rate of hot flushes after 12 weeks
was greatest in the wheat diet phase, when the women had very low urine
isoflavone excretion.5
In contrast, a small reduction in hot flushes was reported in
postmenopausal women treated with isolated soy protein versus casein.
However about 25% of the participants dropped out of this study and the
effects were not clinically significant.6
Two studies of an over the counter tablet preparation of isoflavones
extracted from red clover (40 mg/tablet) versus placebo in postmenopausal
women showed that doses of both 40 mg/day and 160 mg/day had no greater
benefit than placebo for vasomotor or other menopausal symptoms. 7 8
There are acknowledged difficulties in objectively assessing vasomotor
symptoms in studies because of the natural resolution of these symptoms
over time and the high placebo response rate.
Nevertheless, conventional estrogen therapy has been shown to reduce hot
flushes effectively in comparison to placebo, and for phytoestrogens to be
a viable alternative to hormone replacement therapy the same standard
should apply. Phytoestrogens have not been shown to improve other symptoms
that characterize the menopausal transition, such as anxiety, mood changes,
arthralgia, myalgia, and headaches.
Some data indicate a cardioprotective effect of soy, 9 10 primarily due to
favorable lipoprotein lipid effects, but whether the observed effects are
due to the isoflavone component of soy or to other moieties is still unclear.
There is little data to support the claim that phytoestrogens protect
against bone loss, with published studies not having controlled for
confounding factors such as exercise and the interventions having been
relatively short term. That phytoestrogens prevent breast cancer also
cannot be substantiated.
In vitro, concentrations of phytoestrogens equivalent to levels in humans
with a moderate phytoestrogen intake stimulate cell growth in estrogen
positive, but not estrogen negative, cells. In contrast, very high
concentrations (probably greater than circulating levels achievable by
diet) inhibit cell growth in both estrogen positive and negative cell lines.11
There is no evidence that phytoestrogen supplementation in tablet form
protects against breast cancer, or is even safe. Furthermore, concurrent
use of high dose phytoestrogen supplements and tamoxifen in women with
breast cancer should also be discouraged, until further information is
available, because of the potential for isoflavones to antagonize the
desired antiestrogenic effects of tamoxifen.12
Women experiencing mild menopausal symptoms may gain relief by dietary
modification and lifestyle changes, such as reducing smoking and
consumption of caffeine and alcohol, stress management, and increased
exercise.
However, there is no evidence to support the belief that even a very high
intake of soy products will alleviate hot flushes, night sweats, and other
symptoms such as vaginal dryness, mood changes, and musculoskeletal symptoms.
No absolute conclusions can be drawn from the few studies of the effects of
phytoestrogens on bone. As with other interventions of unproved efficacy,
long term randomized trials will be required to determine the place (if
any) of phytoestrogens in the management of postmenopausal women.

RE: [hypothyroidism] Normal Range?

2007-04-14 18:28:25

Chumboods:
free T4 normal is......0.7 to 1.9
Free T3 normal is......230 to 619pg/d
TSH normal is...........0.5 to 6.0 uU/ml
Your readings for T3 are done in a ifferent way than my value chart.
Anyhow your TSH is within normal.
Your T4 is quite high
T3..I cant decipher.
Since these blood tests tend to be notoriously inaccurate, it really doesn't
tell us much.
You'd have to go by symptoms, temperature and pulse before and after
breakfast.
Synthetic hormones lead to more serious dysfunction than exists and when
using synthetics, the cause of the problem is not addressed.
Earl
Synthetic drugs dont work
Thats a perfect example of how synthetic drugs [don't] work. [someone on
synthetics for years]
Synthroid or Eltroxin is sold as...a substitute for your own thyroid
hormone!!
No synthetic drug can possibly do the same physiological job as your own
natural hormone.
When are we going to learn that drugs are only for suppressing symptoms and
never address the cause of our health problems.
When are we going to learn to consult with natural health care therapists?
meaning...naturopaths, chiropractors, osteopaths, PhD's, some herbalists and
a very, very few medically-trained personnel, some of whom have tweaked onto
the fact that drugs simply don't solve health problems. In fact the greatest
cause of distress, disease and death...are prescription drugs.
The thyroid never needs "replacing!!"
What the thyroid needs is...
1-elimination of possible auto-immune problems
2-the nutrients it requires to function normally
The Thyroid Regeneration protocol addresses both of these needs plus more.
The TRP is explained at www.thyrodine.com
I have answered so many queries about the sad effects of synthroid,
Eltroxin, Thyroxine.
They are all synthetic drugs that mimic thyroid function but can never do
the same physiological role. The thyroid gland is capable of working quite
normally if only 1 and 2 above are addressed.
Another consideration: when one takes synthetic hormones is..... you're on
them for
the rest of your life [huge profits!!!]
When one corrects thyroid dysfunction through the TRP, the thyroid comes
back to normal function and can be readily maintained by kelp sprinkled on
your food.
Earl

SR-T3 and diabetic BGs

2007-04-14 05:47:59

Does anyone else have experience with Wilson's Syndrome and SR-T3?
I'd really like to know if other diabetics have had similar results.
I am diabetic and began treatment for Wilson's Syndrome about 18
months ago. I've been hypothyroid probably since childhood, but first
treated in early 20s, then stopped a few years and treated again for
about 20 years. Synthroid and I were a bad match from the start, so
I've always taken Armour thyroid. A goiter with cold nodule grew so
large that it was collapsing my trachea, so 2/3 of my right thyroid
lobe was removed in 1996.
I used to be able to keep my blood glucose(BG) well controlled by diet
and some exercise until I needed to change from Armour thyroid med to
sustained-release T3. (I also have a heavy mercury toxicity burden,
which may complicate things as well.) Since then my BG readings--with
very similar diet--are rarely under 200 and frequently over 250.
(They should be below 110 when I test) At first it used to be just the
morning BGs that were high since using the SR-T3, but now it is almost
every time.
I think I have isolated one factor--flour. But it is still hard for
me to imagine that one 1/2 of pita bread could keep BGs up over 220
for 2 days when everything else I've eaten is exceptionally good for
diet control. This is just one example, too.
My thyroid symptoms are OK while I'm taking SR-T3, but my temp drops
immediately if I don't dose and then it's downhill on roller skates.
Two different doctors treat the thyroid and diabetes. I am very
reluctant to turn myself over to an endo in this neck of the woods for
all the usual reasons. So I'm trying to connect with others with
similar experience so I can get my ducks in a row before I have to
make that endo decision.
Insights w

Normal Range?

2007-04-14 04:35:19

Earl,
Yesterday I had my thyroid levels tested, please could you let me
know if these levels are good, bad or just plain ugly ...
Free T4 - Flag Reference Range - 9.0-21.0 pmol/l
Free T3 - Flag Reference Range - 2.23-5.35 pmol/l
TSH - Flag Reference Range - 0.23-4.0 mIU/l
My GP says they are stable and to keep my medication of Eltroxin at
present dose (1.50 per day) - but I know you say these guys don't
know what they are talking about.

Re: cilantro pesto--effects update

2007-04-13 23:33:04

Earl, thanks for the link to find the cilantro tincture. Let me share
an experience I had since consuming the cilantro pesto that I love so
much!
Previously, whenever I had DMPS injected as part of a pelvic block,
within a few days I'd get a spot on the right side of my abdomen that
I can only describe as a toxic burn. Since it happened each time, I
was certain it was mercurial evidence of some sort. The block was
administered to both sides of my pelvis, BTW, but I only get the burn
on the right.
I ate 2 Tbsp a day for two days, took a break for a day or two due to
forgetfulness, and then had another dose of the same on Thursday.
Well, on Friday I could feel this same sensation in the same spot on
my abdomen and shor'nuff! A smaller but distinct spot larger than a
quarter dollar. It is still with me. The others last about 10 days
after one mego injection. During this same timeframe, my vertigo
symptoms came back but this time they have stayed with me throughout,
while before they were more fleeting, which makes me inclined to
connect this to the mercury as well.
I thought this was quite interesting. Has anyone else experienced
anything unusual after eating it?
Rennie

RE: [hypothyroidism] child

2007-04-13 20:31:26

Shelly:
Most drugs cause thyroid disorders. Therefore, we have found that the
Thyroid Regeneration protocol has been amazingly effective at restoring
thyroid function....if no further drugs are taken.
Suggest seeking help from a naturopathic doctor.
This data may be of some help to you.
Earl
Thyroid Regeneration Protocol:
This protocol is designed to eliminate all pathogenic microorganisms that
may be a cause of auto-immune dysfunctions, including hyperthyroid,
Hashimotos thyroiditis, Grave's Disease or any of the arthritis or
ulcerative syndromes, it also clears the colon of toxic debris, killed
pathogens and restores gut flora and gut wall. After accomplishing this
necessary biological detox, then Thyrodine will fully restore thyroid
function. If one has been on synthetics for many years, the process of
restoration will take longer.
If one has significant amounts of amalgam in their teeth, then it would also
be prudent to do the Mercury Elimiation protocol until removal of the
amalgam can be done by a competent dentist.
The Thyroid Regeneration protocol consists of...
Phase-I:
1-ImmunoGuard: [a natural antibiotic made from grapefruit seed extract,
colloidal silver, manuka oil,and strongly antibiotic herbs]. take 12 drops
in a full glass of water 4x a day on an empty stomach...for 8 days. Then
stop taking it. Use only for infections or inflammations.
2-Intesto-Lin: a bowel detox formula made from linseed fiber, guar gum,
glutamine, licorice, ginger, fruit pectin [lemon / orange peel], slippery
elm, chickweed, Take 1 tablespoon in 1/2 glass apple juice before bed and
upon arising. Continue taking til gone.0
3-Liver/gall bladder flush: After a week of apple juice and Intesto-Lin, do
the gb flush.
Drink a glass at 4PM, 6PM and 8PM of 1/3 of a quart of water in which you
put 3 Tbl epsom salts. This is tio clear the colon.
At 9 or 10PM make up a cup of 1/4 olive oil and 1/2 lemon and or grapefruit
juice. Drink. Go to bed, Curl up on right side.
In the morning check your poop very carefully for stones.
4-Brush skin with a skin brush [long handled] before each shower [dry] to
stimulate toxin removal.
This completes Phase-I: This should have taken 14 to 20 days.
5-You will then need a probiotic [intestinal bacteria]. Lactobacillus-8 has
8 powerful bacteria for restoring gut function and protecting the gut wall.
Take 3 capsules before bed and 3 capsules upon arising....til capsules are
gone.
6-Then...Begin taking Thyrodine at 3 drops in juice or water 10 to 15
minutes before breakfast and before lunch....to fully retore thyroid
function. Finish the bottle. Then take underarm temperature, before arising
in the morning for 3 to 4 successive days. If temperature is around 98.0 to
98.6 then you can maintain thyroid function now with just kelp [seaweed] on
your food. If temperature is 96.0 to 97.8, then order another bottle of
Thyrodine and take til finished. Repeat this procedure.
When starting the Thyrodine you may wish to consider slowly weaning off any
synthetic drugs or hormones. Most folks simply lessen their dosage over 2 to
6 weeks as the Thyrodine is restoring normal thyroid function.
7-Many women exhibit an estrogen dominance, meaning excess estrogen and
inadequate progesterone.
This is the major cause of PMS, menopausal symptoms, breast and ovarian
cysts, uterine fibroids, endometriosis, depression, and eventually cancer.
Beginning with the Thyroid Regeneration Protocol, by adding Pro-Catumaca, an
oral progesterone, with an herbal Hormone "Regulator" called Catumaca, this
combination will effectively combat estrogen dominance, if....
1-a reasonable nutritional program is followed [see our Biogenic nutritional
guide or access www.hacres.com ]
2-no drugs are being taken
3-there is no chlorine or fluoride in drinking water [needs a good water
filter]
4-there is no excess or leaking mercury from amalgam fillings
5-that unfermented soy products have been eliminated, like tofu, soy milk,
sot isolate
[fermented soy is OK, like tamari, miso, tempeh]
To complete the entire protocol, it would be wise to consider taking
1-chlorella tabs: a superior nutritional concentrate that combined with
Vitamin C removes mercury from the system, or
2-a superior greens formula to insure getting all the crucial nutrients in
an organic or wildcrafted form.
[for North America only]..The best greens formula, an exceptional greens
powder made from the best wild crafted and organic sources. It consists of
spirulina, chlorella, barley grass, alfalfa, wheat grass powders, kelp, beet
root, spinach leaf, rose hips, orange and lemon peels and a non active
yeast.
Its called Vital Nutrition Plus and is one of the best all round supplements
avaialble. I take it daily. They will also send you a catolog of some truly
excellent natural products devised by a naturopathic doctor, Dr. Richard
Schulze.
See Hormone Regeneration Protocol for more data.

child

2007-04-13 06:59:07

I am just joining the group. I found out today that my daughter has
hypothyroidism. It was the result of bloodwork done due to a
condition she takes medication for.
My mom was 17 when diagnosised, my sister 23. My daughter is only 11.
just looking for information and what to expect

GLA's

2007-04-13 04:43:03

Earl:

What do you think of the GLA's or CLA's? Are they healthy? do they promote obesity???

I've come to the conclusion that just about every damn thing on the planet is detrimental to health LOL.....

Kathie

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Re: [hypothyroidism] cilantro; black walnuts

2007-04-12 16:58:04

Mary,
Thank you. I will have my husband make something up for me like that to
try. Yes, they do stain hands bad. I pick them up for months every
year!! Noisy when falling on roofs too, ;)))
Take care.
Love and Peace,
Reneé and Jerry

cilantro; black walnuts

2007-04-12 16:17:01

I have another recipe for cilantro, fresh tomato
salsa.
6 plum tomatoes or small regular tomatoes
1 small bunch of cilantro (about 6 stems)
3-4 greenonions (scallions)
2 cloves garlic
2 Chinese dehydrated red peppers-tiny-very hot
Pulse these in your food processor until coarsely
chopped. My family loves this on corn chips or
tortilla chips & doesn't even know it's good for them.
:)
Renee--Black walnut hulls-my grandfather used to do
this but he threw the hulls away and ate the walnuts.
They taste great. They are very hard to hull and
stain your hands black for weeks. What he did was
drill some holes in a piece of wood and pound the nuts
through the holes with a hammer. This took the hulls
off. I would wear gloves to avoid stains too.
Mary C.

Re: [hypothyroidism] flax oil

2007-04-12 14:48:53

Earl,
I thought flax seeds were good for you? Essential fatty acids. I bought
a combination flax seed oil and evening primrose oil to possibly help
with hairloss, as I have read about several people that it helped slow
down the shedding. Evening primrose oil is also good for menstral
problems I have heard many times.
Take care.
Love and Peace,
Reneé and Jerry

flax oil

2007-04-11 23:46:25

Wow! I didn't know that. I was believing that flax oil is so good for us
according to health "experts". What about the seeds? I know they have oil
in them, but aren't they beneficial because of the lignans? By the way,
where did you get this info.? I'd love to read it for myself. Is there
coconut oil just anywhere? Are there special types or certain ways of
getting the oil that I should look for?
Can you tell I'm new to this list? Thank you for your help.
Tina

Re: cilantro pesto

2007-04-11 18:32:40

Thanks for posting this recipe again. Can someone tell me what you do
with the pesto? ie. serve it on crackers?
Thanks,
Donna DM

cilantro pesto

2007-04-11 13:54:06

I, too, have made the cilantro pesto and it is delicious. I plan to take 2
teaspoons for 2-3 weeks daily. Actually, it is hard to take ONLY 2
teaspoons because it is so good. I blended this recipe with another I also
saw recently, and it worked well.
I used a blend of 1/3 cup Brazil nuts (rich in selenium), !/3 cup sunflower
seeds (soaked), 1/3 cup pumpkin seeds. I also used half olive oil and half
flax oil, since the flax oil is so expensive. I used 2 cups of cilantro
and 4-5 cloves of garlic. I also found that it mixes easier if you do it in
a food processor instead of a blender. It just about burned up my blender!
Tina K.
This post is a godsend! Thanks so much. I will make this cilantro